@kellyjay saidJesus said those who are born of the Spirit move like the wind. Do you know anyone who can do that? I know of some :
You are looking for scripture, why, you lying hypocrite? Do you hold that the scripture is the revealed word of God, that you must conform to? You ignore text when it suits you without explanation other than your lies about church doctrine! You make up excuses to avoid taking the plain meaning of the text over and over! When the scripture says you must be born again then you must be born again, deceiver! You were already given a text!
- spirit beings
- angels
- Jesus Christ
- and all the righteous who are going into the Kingdom of God, on the day of judgment, yet to come.
There is nobody on earth who are born of the Spirit. Baptized Christians are born of water, some have the Holy Spirit enabling them to do miracles, speak in tongues, prophesy etc... but none are born of the Spirit . Jesus also said ...a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. (Luke 24:39 KJV)
There are only two options
1. Born of Flesh
2. Born of the Spirit
Easy to find out which you are ... take a knife and cut yourself. Do you see blood? Then you are flesh and blood. Otherwise, see if you can move like the wind like Jesus said. Cant? Then you are not born of the Spirit. Its that simple.
Im laughing at you KJ. Your entire church doctrine appears to be complete rubbish. Time to leave that church.
07 Sep 23
@rajk999 saidYou don't know what you are talking about, and your misquoting text, again.
Jesus said those who are born of the Spirit move like the wind. Do you know anyone who can do that? I know of some :
- spirit beings
- angels
- Jesus Christ
- and all the righteous who are going into the Kingdom of God, on the day of judgment, yet to come.
There is nobody on earth who are born of the Spirit. Baptized Christians are born of water, some have the Holy ...[text shortened]... at you KJ. Your entire church doctrine appears to be complete rubbish. Time to leave that church.
07 Sep 23
@kellyjay saidI am not misquoting at all. You are lying.
You don't know what you are talking about, and your misquoting text, again.
I quoted references where Jesus said :
- that which is born of the Spirit is spirit [John 3]
- a spirit hath not flesh and bones. [Luke 24]
You claim that you are born of the Spirit, so that means, you do not have flesh and bones. WHAT !!! KJ does not have flesh and bones !! Lol .. 😆 Are you Christians serious?
07 Sep 23
@rajk999 saidOne off it, are you pretending you don’t know what Jesus meant when he said “you must be born again”?
I am not misquoting at all. You are lying.
I quoted references where Jesus said :
- that which is born of the Spirit is spirit [John 3]
- a spirit hath not flesh and bones. [Luke 24]
You claim that you are born of the Spirit, so that means, you do not have flesh and bones. WHAT !!! KJ does not have flesh and bones !! Lol .. 😆 Are you Christians serious?
07 Sep 23
@divegeester saidWhat is One off it .. ?
One off it, are you pretending you don’t know what Jesus meant when he said “you must be born again”?
I think Jesus's words were clear. I did understand. What part of what I said made you think I did not know what Jesus meant? There is born of water and born of the Spirit. These are two different things which I explained a few posts back.
08 Sep 23
@rajk999 saidI'd hazard a guess that divegeester's phone was interfering with his attempt to say "Come off it!"
What is One off it .. ?
I think Jesus's words were clear. I did understand. What part of what I said made you think I did not know what Jesus meant? There is born of water and born of the Spirit. These are two different things which I explained a few posts back.
@rajk999 saidWhat did you find so funny about it when you said this:
What part of what I said made you think I did not know what Jesus meant? There is born of water and born of the Spirit. These are two different things which I explained a few posts back.
”You claim that you are born of the Spirit, so that means, you do not have flesh and bones. WHAT !!! KJ does not have flesh and bones !! Lol .. 😆 Are you Christians serious?”
08 Sep 23
@divegeester saidYou are not following the conversation. I pointed out that Jesus said, what is born of the Spirit is spirit, and that a spirit does not have flesh and blood. Therefore Christians claiming that they are born of the Spirit means they are spirit beings, without flesh and blood. That is funny because all people on this planet are fleshly beings. The transformation into a spirit has not yet happened. Seems like you are making the same claim that you are also born of the Spirit.
What did you find so funny about it when you said this:
”You claim that you are born of the Spirit, so that means, you do not have flesh and bones. WHAT !!! KJ does not have flesh and bones !! Lol .. 😆 Are you Christians serious?”
08 Sep 23
@kellyjay saidI think this conversation is over and you failed to prove your case that you are born of the Spirit. You are indeed a fleshly being, consisting of flesh, blood and bones. Therefore you are not born of the Spirit which Jesus said is spirit.
@Rajk999
Quote the scriptures you did not, you mentioned things out of context. As you do most of the time by taking things out of context to put your personal spin on them.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. (John 3:6-8 KJV)
Also you do not have the ability to move like the wind which someone born of the Spirit can do.
Your church is a cesspool of false doctrines contrary to the bible. You should be very concerned about that.
08 Sep 23
@rajk999 saidI can imagine you would end the conversation once you have to use scripture in context, deceiver.
I think this conversation is over and you failed to prove your case that you are born of the Spirit. You are indeed a fleshly being, consisting of flesh, blood and bones. Therefore you are not born of the Spirit which Jesus said is spirit.
[i]That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must ...[text shortened]... ch is a cesspool of false doctrines contrary to the bible. You should be very concerned about that.
08 Sep 23
@kellyjay saidYou keep saying that without stating what I have taken out of context.
I can imagine you would end the conversation once you have to use scripture in context, deceiver.
I use references, You dont and yet you accuse me of not using references.
What have I taken out of context?
08 Sep 23
@rajk999 saidAs I said every time you quote scripture not giving it the proper status you take it out of context and on top of the twisting of those times you use text.
You keep saying that without stating what I have taken out of context.
I use references, You dont and yet you accuse me of not using references.
What have I taken out of context?
08 Sep 23
@rajk999 saidThen what did Jesus mean what he said to Nicodemus:
You are not following the conversation. I pointed out that Jesus said, what is born of the Spirit is spirit, and that a spirit does not have flesh and blood. Therefore Christians claiming that they are born of the Spirit means they are spirit beings, without flesh and blood. That is funny because all people on this planet are fleshly beings. The transformation into a spi ...[text shortened]... as not yet happened. Seems like you are making the same claim that you are also born of the Spirit.
“YOU must be born again”?
The spirit is reborn not the flesh, but the spirit is within the flesh, within the person.
I really don’t see what your issue is with this, it’s a simple premise which abundantly stated, inferred, referenced and explained throughout scripture.