Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (Page 158)"There is but one truly serious philosophical problem and that is suicide." ―Albert Camus
Footnote:
“The man who kills a man kills a man.
The man who kills himself kills all men.
As far as he is concerned, he wipes out the world.”
―G.K. Chesterton
“Suicide is man's way of telling God, 'You can't fire me - I quit!”
―Bill Maher
“When people kill themselves, they think they're ending the pain,
but all they're doing is passing it on to those they leave behind.”
―Jeannette Walls
Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke"Literature Network » Gilbert Keith Chesterton » Alarms and Discursions » Ch. 9: Cheese. ":
Chesterton also said:
"Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese."
My forthcoming work in five volumes, "The Neglect of Cheese in European Literature" is a work of such unprecedented and laborious detail that it is doubtful if I shall live to finish it. Some overflowings from such a fountain of information may therefore be permitted to springle these pages. I cannot yet wholly explain the neglect to which I refer. Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese. Virgil, if I remember right, refers to it several times, but with too much Roman restraint. He does not let himself go on cheese. The only other poet I can think of just now who seems to have had some sensibility on the point was the nameless author of the nursery rhyme which says: "If all the trees were bread and cheese"--which is, indeed a rich and gigantic vision of the higher gluttony. If all the trees were bread and cheese there would be considerable deforestation in any part of England where I was living. Wild and wide woodlands would reel and fade before me as rapidly as they ran after Orpheus. Except Virgil and this anonymous rhymer, I can recall no verse about cheese. Yet it has every quality which we require in exalted poetry. It is a short, strong word; it rhymes to "breeze" and "seas" (an essential point); that it is emphatic in sound is admitted even by the civilization of the modern cities. For their citizens, with no apparent intention except emphasis, will often say, "Cheese it!" or even "Quite the cheese." The substance itself is imaginative. It is ancient--sometimes in the individual case, always in the type and custom. It is simple, being directly derived from milk, which is one of the ancestral drinks, not lightly to be corrupted with soda-water. You know, I hope (though I myself have only just thought of it), that the four rivers of Eden were milk, water, wine, and ale. Aerated waters only appeared after the Fall."
http://www.online-literature.com/chesterton/alarms-and-discursions/9/
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Your interpretation of "Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese."?
Originally posted by Grampy BobbySuicide is a serious mental health problem. The only related "truly serious philosophical problem" I can see would be in a debate about things like [1] how society organizes itself to address mental health problems and the obligations and rights surrounding them, and [2] how [and why] people choose to muddy proper understanding of the nature of serious problems like this with stuff like glib propagation of their superstitions and homespun, ill-informed, and often unoriginal or not properly scrutinized conjecture. Perhaps you, Grampy Bobby, need to address [2] if your interest in suicide is genuine.
"There is but one truly serious philosophical problem and that is suicide." ―Albert Camus
02 Feb 16
Originally posted by HandyAndyYes: /\ and then tomorrow /\ and the next day /\ ad infinitum ad nauseam etcetera et al. Have you?
A pregnant thought. Have you read The Myth of Sisyphus?
"Man stands face to face with the irrational. He feels within him his longing for happiness and for reason. The absurd is born of this confrontation between the human need and the unreasonable silence of the world.” ―Albert Camus, The Myth of Sisyphus and Other Essays
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou asked divegeester whether ~ if he fantasized about me when he masturbates ~ it might lead to him and me engaging in homosexuality. How is a post like that supposed to be funny coming from a man in his 40s when it sounds like it was written by a sniggering adolescent simply trying to say something as nasty as he possibly can?
FMF is like a perma-whinge, he literally seeps whinges, next he'll be asking us to play fairies and showing us how!
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyCamus' views on suicide seem to collide with yours.
Yes: [b]/\ and then tomorrow /\ and the next day /\ ad infinitum ad nauseam etcetera et al. Have you?
"Man stands face to face with the irrational. He feels within him his longing for happiness and for reason. The absurd is born of this confrontation between the human need and the unreasonable silence of the world.” ―Albert Camus, The Myth of Sisyphus and Other Essays[/b]
Originally posted by HandyAndyPerhaps Sisyphus would have borrowed your legendary wheelbarrow to lessen the strain of moving that mythical boulder up that steep mountain each day. Who knows? Camus was as entitled to voice his views back in the day as you and I are here on the worldwide internet today.
Camus' views on suicide seem to collide with yours.
What are your own views regarding "suicide"?