Originally posted by Zahlanziwow thats bitter, so lets get this, you have been captured trying to influence little children with gay propaganda and you are asking us, what wrong? Wow.
who gives a flying fuk about whether it is real or not? it is a book for children. little children. children who would then watch my little pony "science documentary". what five year old would care about whether the penguins are fukin or not? do you care if tom selleck is boning the other two dudes after taking care of the baby in "3 men and a baby"? hmm, ...[text shortened]... m 2 loving adoptive parents. what is wrong with you people? political agenda? of fukin what?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobiewhy cant gay men provide a father figure?????
sadly in the case of gay foster parents , they cannot provide either a mother figure or a father figure, there is nothing loving about that. Married heterosexuals make the best parents.
Originally posted by stellspalfiedont be stupid, the equation is not and/or, its simply or, for example, if you have two gay men they cannot provide a mother figure or if you have two lesbians how can they provide a father figure, that is correct, they cannot, its just like a Gaylord propagandist to try to contest the FACT.
why cant gay men provide a father figure?????
18 Jul 13
Originally posted by stellspalfiehe is still living in the 50's, where women stayed at home and took care of children. where women wash and cook and men earn the bread, then come home and watch tv.
why cant gay men provide a father figure?????
nowadays, both parents are working. nowadays, both the man and woman, when coming home from work, engage in domestic activities. men might iron the clothes. women might change a lightbulb. parenting is done equally. he keeps going on and on about mother figure and father figure as if only a woman is suited in "kissing ones booboo" and only the father can pass a ball with his son.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobiethats not what you wrote though.
dont be stupid, the equation is not and/or, its simply or, for example, if you have two gay men they cannot provide a mother figure or if you have two lesbians how can they provide a father figure, that is correct, they cannot, its just like a Gaylord propagandist to try to contest the FACT.
"sadly in the case of gay foster parents , they cannot provide either a mother figure or a father figure"
if this isnt what you meant then you should choose your words more carefully, as it reads exactly like gay parents cannot provide a mother 'or' a father figure.
you should be reminded that the bible mentions nothing about the quality of homosexual parenting and any speculation by you is extra-biblical and personal opinion. something you are not supposed to do.
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Originally posted by Zahlanzii think you are correct regarding the stereotyping of parental roles. hes also has a hopelessly simplistic concept of how good parenting works. the idea that all a child needs is a father and mother is laughably out of date.
he is still living in the 50's, where women stayed at home and took care of children. where women wash and cook and men earn the bread, then come home and watch tv.
nowadays, both parents are working. nowadays, both the man and woman, when coming home from work, engage in domestic activities. men might iron the clothes. women might change a lightbulb ...[text shortened]... a woman is suited in "kissing ones booboo" and only the father can pass a ball with his son.
we can see lots of examples of brilliant single parents both mothers and fathers, bringing up their children well. when single parents do a bad job its usually more to do with the environment in which the child is raised, having one less parent also removes the fail-safe if one parent is failing then there may be another to pick up the slack. in some cases we know both parents can fail.
the illusion that a man gives children something specific fundamental to growing up is nonsense. there is zero that a man can give that a women cant and visa-verse.
this is why there is no evidence that same-sex parents are worse then traditional parents.
Originally posted by Zahlanziclearly you have never been to India and have only the lens of your western liberal agenda to work with. It is understood that in the vast majority of instances, after marraige, women, even bollywood actresses, such as Juhi Chawla and Madhuri Dixit dedicate themselves to their marriages and their families and guess what zippy, it actually works!
he is still living in the 50's, where women stayed at home and took care of children. where women wash and cook and men earn the bread, then come home and watch tv.
nowadays, both parents are working. nowadays, both the man and woman, when coming home from work, engage in domestic activities. men might iron the clothes. women might change a lightbulb ...[text shortened]... a woman is suited in "kissing ones booboo" and only the father can pass a ball with his son.
Nowadays? my wife doesn't work outside of her home nowadays, she does plenty inside, but then again, we have only been happily married for fourteen years. Parenting? that's a laugh, how can you spend quality time with your kids when you are working all the time, its a nonsense and that's why so many grandparents end up looking after kids, picking them from school and babysitting while the parents are off to work, to pay for a house larger than they need, more cars than they can drive and holidays to get over their holidays. Ahhh yes, materialism in all its guises, the empty deception, no wonder so many people are so unhappy.
I dont think we need advice from you Zippy or your western materialism, with a fifty percent chance of marriage failure, thanks, but no thanks. The Bible teaches us how we aught to live, you have your own values which are not your values.
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Originally posted by stellspalfieout of date? since when did a father and a mother become outdated? you really are quite deluded, reality has no meaning to you, reason even less.
i think you are correct regarding the stereotyping of parental roles. hes also has a hopelessly simplistic concept of how good parenting works. the idea that all a child needs is a father and mother is laughably out of date.
we can see lots of examples of brilliant single parents both mothers and fathers, bringing up their children well. when single p ...[text shortened]... se.
this is why there is no evidence that same-sex parents are worse then traditional parents.
18 Jul 13
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI don't see how someone's sexual orientation can make them a good or bad parent? Surely there is more criteria to define whether someone is a good or bad parent than just their sexual preference?
sadly in the case of gay foster parents , they cannot provide either a mother figure or a father figure, there is nothing loving about that. Married heterosexuals make the best parents.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobiethe reality is that the world is full of various combinations of parenting. the delusion is that it has to be a man and wife.
out of date? since when did a father and a mother become outdated? you really are quite deluded, reality has no meaning to you, reason even less.
come on then smart arse, what is it that a child can only learn specifically from a man? and what are the consequences if the child doesnt learn it?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIndia, that bastion of women's rights. High levels of domestic and sexual abuse, prostitution and child prostitution is rife and it's a place where a bride is burnt to death every hour and acid attacks on women are rising.
clearly you have never been to India and have only the lens of your western liberal agenda to work with. It is understood that in the vast majority of instances, after marraige, women, even bollywood actresses, such as Juhi Chawla and Madhuri Dixit dedicate themselves to their marriages and their families and guess what zippy, it actually works!
he Bible teaches us how we aught to live, you have your own values which are not your values.
And yes, I've been there.
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Originally posted by Proper Knobhe looks through some rose tinted magical lenses of an india in a bygone age. its a myth that all indian women stay at home and as the economy booms and the standard of living increases the quantity of working mothers will increase. its already around 25% including rural areas, so the urban stats alone would be up there with western culture.
India, that bastion of women's rights. High levels of domestic and sexual abuse, prostitution and child prostitution is rife and it's a place where a bride is burnt to death every hour and acid attacks on women are rising.
And yes, I've been there.
18 Jul 13
Originally posted by stellspalfieExactly. When has Rob ever let reality get in the way of his religious beliefs?
he looks through some rose tinted magical lenses of an india in a bygone age. its a myth that all indian women stay at home and as the economy booms and the standard of living increases the quantity of working mothers will increase. its already around 25% including rural areas, so the urban stats alone would be up there with western culture.