Is Disfellowship Physically and Spiritually Necessary

Originally posted by divegeester
I think you will find beauroberts has little interest in your religion's direction anymore. His sad experience of your loving congregation and yours and roigam's behaviour in this thread has been an excellent example of the unpleasant nature of the Jehovah's Witness religion.

"behaviour" ? Lol. Coming from you is quite a laugh.... Thanks I needed one!

Originally posted by FMF
If they did try to split up beauroberts' family by getting his wife to move out and taking his children away from him, do you think the elders involved should have been disfellowshipped for their actions for any of the reasons laid out in your long copy paste above?

"If" That's the whole point here isn't it? I can literally bet my life on that they did not try to split them up. Never would any elder do that other then if there were a physical danger to any of the parties involved especially the children.
Perhaps there is more to this then is being spoken? Only he knows.....

So you can stop asking me the same question over and over as just like you, I do not know the facts.

Originally posted by galveston75
"If" That's the whole point here isn't it? I can literally bet my life on that they did not try to split them up. Never would any elder do that other then if there were a physical danger to any of the parties involved especially the children.
Perhaps there is more to this then is being spoken? Only he knows.....

So you can stop asking me the same question over and over as just like you, I do not know the facts.

But beauroberts has explained what happened to him and his wife. The fact that you personally have not come across action by elders of this kind before is completely irrelevant. The fact that you haven't personally known, for instance, a JW member who sexually abused children while being a member of the organisation does not mean that such cases of abuse have never happened. What you would ~ or would not ~ "bet your life on" is not relevant. If the facts of the case are that the elders did what beauroberts described them as doing, ought they to be disfellowshipped, in your view?

Originally posted by FMF
But beauroberts has explained what happened to him and his wife. The fact that you personally have not come across action by elders of this kind before is completely irrelevant. The fact that you haven't personally known, for instance, a JW member who sexually abused children while being a member of the organisation does not mean that such cases of abuse have ne ...[text shortened]... s did what beauroberts described them as doing, ought they to be disfellowshipped, in your view?

If wrong doing was done by the elders, then Jehovah has seen that and will act accordingly.
If no discipline action is taken against the elders, that would show the decision they made would not have been an incorrect one and in agreement with God's laws in the Bible.

Also beauroberts could rightfully had asked to be heard by another group of elders from another local congregation if he felt the elders were wrong with him and his family and what he says they did.
If that did not resolve the issues for him he could have even asked to be heard by the Circuit Overseer of that part of the state and report the wrong judgements placed upon him by those elders.
Hs he done any of that?

Originally posted by galveston75
If wrong doing was done by the elders, then Jehovah has seen that and will act accordingly.
If no discipline action is taken against the elders, that would show the decision they made would not have been an incorrect one and in agreement with God's laws in the Bible.

Also beauroberts could rightfully had asked to be heard by another group of elders ...[text shortened]... state and report the wrong judgements placed upon him by those elders.
Hs he done any of that?

Is beauroberts disfellowshiped? thats pretty sad, perhaps in time he will come back, many do.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Is beauroberts disfellowshiped? thats pretty sad, perhaps in time he will come back, many do.

The smart ones never do!

Just kidding robbie. Nice to see you again.

Originally posted by josephw
The smart ones never do!

Just kidding robbie. Nice to see you again.

Oh i don't plan on staying long, just dropped in to check my variations, everything same as it ever was - regards Robbie 😀

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Oh i don't plan on staying long, just dropped in to check my variations, everything same as it ever was - regards Robbie 😀

Check my variations while you're at it. But keep your hands off! Merry Christmas robbie. 🙂

Originally posted by galveston75
"behaviour" ? Lol. Coming from you is quite a laugh.... Thanks I needed one!

Interesting comment; from his first post in this forum I have repeatedly extended a warm welcome to beauroberts, I have chatted genially with him in games, wished him my best for his surgery and during this time of great difficulty for himself his wife and his family I have done the same thing in private, while publically defending him in this forum from the likes of you, roigam and your nasty religion generally. I've provided heartfelt moral support, practical advice and reading and generally been an online friend to him.

What have you done? Except ignore the man, accuse him of dishonestly and post the occiasional sneering "Lol".

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Is beauroberts disfellowshiped? thats pretty sad, perhaps in time he will come back, many do.

I and many others will be hoping, praying and advising that the poor man stays as far away from your pernicious religious cult as is geographically and emotionally possible.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Oh i don't plan on staying long...

If I had a £ for every time you drama queens said that....

Originally posted by divegeester
I and many others will be hoping, praying and advising that the poor man stays as far away from your pernicious religious cult as is geographically and emotionally possible.

Don't leave out spiritually.

Originally posted by galveston75
If wrong doing was done by the elders, then Jehovah has seen that and will act accordingly.
If no discipline action is taken against the elders, that would show the decision they made would not have been an incorrect one and in agreement with God's laws in the Bible.

Also beauroberts could rightfully had asked to be heard by another group of elders ...[text shortened]... state and report the wrong judgements placed upon him by those elders.
Hs he done any of that?

Hs he done any of that?

Maybe he has just thought: 'good riddance'.

Originally posted by galveston75
If no discipline action is taken against the elders, that would show the decision they made would not have been an incorrect one and in agreement with God's laws in the Bible.

Isn't this simply circular logic?

Originally posted by galveston75
Also beauroberts could rightfully had asked to be heard by another group of elders from another local congregation if he felt the elders were wrong with him and his family and what he says they did.

What power or authority would the group of elders from another local congregation have over his own congregation's elders? Wouldn't they simply react by immediately calling into question beauroberts' integrity as both you and roigam have done on this forum? You, for instance, having heard him explain what happened said you'd "literally bet [your] life" it wasn't true. If you were a neighbouring congregation's elder, what would be the point of calling someone like you in? Can you cite any examples of a group of elders from one local congregation overriding the decisions of another congregation?