18 Dec 14
Originally posted by beaurobertsI will respond with this. Only you, Jehovah and the elders involved know the issues. Jehovah is the reader of hearts and the one who judges all his servents. Jehovah as in the days of old used men of wisdom to guide all under his care. It is a heavy responsibility and one they take very serious. But just as in those days he still uses men of spiritual wisdom to guide his followers now. No differance as much as most here do not believe that is possible.
I was indeed greeted and welcomed to the site with open arms. Just to clarify I was not disfellowshipped at that time. I wasn't disfellowshipped until the beginning of April this year. You are just hearing about it now because I have been absent from the site and the forums until just last week for health reasons. Roughly seven months without any activit ...[text shortened]... s due to timeout due to inactivity. I appologize if this caused any clarity issues on your part.
I hope in time your life will work out in a way you are happy with and that will hopefully include Jehovah and his organization.
I too was disfellowshipped many years ago and the correction was not easy to take and it hurt and it was embarrassing but only because I knew I did wrong. I made some bad decisions and in the end I knew it hurt Jehovah and brought reproach on his name and organization. I was reinstated and being disciplined was the best thing that has ever happened to me. It woke me up!!!!!
My suggestion to you is to be extremely careful as to the advise you are getting here. If you believe in Jehovah and that he loves you and wants you back, you will find no help here as none here even believe Jehovah is his name. How would they know him and his ways if they miss this simple fact?
Go back to the meetings..anywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18 Dec 14
Originally posted by galveston75After ignoring and insulting the man for 8 pages, I think you have probably missed the opportunity to rescue the situation, no matter how many exclamation marks you deploy.
I will respond with this. Only you, Jehovah and the elders involved know the issues. Jehovah is the reader of hearts and the one who judges all his servents. Jehovah as in the days of old used men of wisdom to guide all under his care. It is a heavy responsibility and one they take very serious. But just as in those days he still uses men of spiritual wi ...[text shortened]... is ways if they miss this simple fact?
Go back to the meetings..anywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18 Dec 14
Originally posted by divegeesterWell geester, I was replying to Beau, and as usual you chime in where you weren't asked to.
As usual you chip in and yet say nothing at all.
I was rather thinking that Beau might be interested in why I thought so, but apparently he isn't. Otherwise I'm not interested in squabbling over the issue of church discipline, especially with those that don't know what the Bible has to say about it much less how it is applied.
19 Dec 14
Originally posted by divegeester!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lol.
After ignoring and insulting the man for 8 pages, I think you have probably missed the opportunity to rescue the situation, no matter how many exclamation marks you deploy.
19 Dec 14
Originally posted by galveston75Well, despite reading long detailed accounts of what happened written by the person it happened to, you nevertheless claimed "I do not know the specifics as to what went on between him, his family or the elders. And "...I do not know any of the happenings or discussions that went on...". Such a summary dismissal of a fellow Christian's testimony is nothing if not calling his integrity into question.
Where did I say his integraty was in question?
19 Dec 14
Originally posted by galveston75Is it not the elders who decide whether someone who has been disfellowshipped can come back to the JW organisation (or, indeed, whether the JW organisation wants them back), and not "Jehovah"?
If you believe in Jehovah and that he loves you and wants you back, you will find no help here as none here even believe Jehovah is his name.
19 Dec 14
Originally posted by galveston75I am not denying I broke one of their rules. I am not saying they didn't have the right to disfellowship me. All I am simply saying is I received a blood transfusion after being told not to. I knew what I was doing. I was clinging to the precious gift which is life. A gift that was given to me by Jehovah God. I was also making sure I would be around for a long period of time to help bring my children up knowing who Jehovah is. I knew their beliefs in blood transfusions so them disfellowshipping me was of course their right. I am not disputing that...nor should you question this as I have been very honest and articulate about exactly how it happened.
WHY would they want to do this????????????????
Answer this please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That answers why they disfellowshipped me...pretty clear cut, cut and dry no other way to look at it. Thats why they did it...Why they would want to do it, I cannot speak for them or address their hearts or anything like that. I always thought I brought alot to the meetings. I partook in the kingdom ministry I was a borderline pioneer on top of ministry school and work and everything else. The truth is I loved going and I loved talking to the people and hearing the word. Albeit there were some things I did not fully buy into and therefore I probably should not have chosen to be baptised...entirely my fault and no fault of the organization. But It was my belief that by receiving the transfusion it would make me stronger giving me back my life allowing me to continue to edify and lift up Jehovah's good name. By receiving the transfusion it was my hope to be able to continue the very important field work.
I hope this answers your questions please feel free to ask more if it helps add clarity to the situation.
Beau
19 Dec 14
Originally posted by galveston75I do not require proof. I am a man of integrity, and will not have my good name questioned. I have done nothing and said nothing to cause you to question anything I have said or done.
Sorry but must have missed that. Refresh me please....
With proof?
I told you I was disfellowshipped. I told you the reason. I did not have to do that. Nor did I have explain how and why it happened. I having nothing against the brothers that were there when I was disfellowshipped. I even understand why they disfellowshipped me...all of this is crystal clear to me.
So in the interest of being a human being I think you owe me an apology.
19 Dec 14
Originally posted by josephwAnother nothing post.
Well geester, I was replying to Beau, and as usual you chime in where you weren't asked to.
I was rather thinking that Beau might be interested in why I thought so, but apparently he isn't. Otherwise I'm not interested in squabbling over the issue of church discipline, especially with those that don't know what the Bible has to say about it much less how it is applied.