NZ gay marriage act

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
its not good to mock God PK, not good at all. I dont think i can even save you now.

Rob, in case you have forgotten, I don't believe in God. There is no God to mock in this case.

You seriously believe some spirit in the sky is going to exact revenge on me for what I type on a chess forum website?! Your're even more nuts than I think you are already.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I am sure he would rather not be HIV+, you make it sound like a good thing!

im sure they would rather not have any illness. but its hardly a reason to specifically select them out of the general populous because they have higher level of 'something they would rather not have' and parade h.i.v. around as some sort of weapon to imply that they all homosexuals are immoral. you dont not call all hetrosexuals immoral, you carefully choose your words to select just the hetrosexuals who are promiscuous....yet you never make that distinction for homosexuals. thus making you a big old homophobe.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Its simply an example FMF of having a personal value and providing an inducement to others to engage in activity which is contrary to that personal value. Its hypocritical.

So Muslims should impose their beliefs on those of other faiths or else be accused of hypocrisy? Are you sure about this?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Rob, in case you have forgotten, I don't believe in God. There is no God to mock in this case.

You seriously some spirit in the sky is going to exact revenge on me for what I type on a chess forum website?! Your're even more nuts than I think you are already.

Ok, but dont say i did not warn you.

Originally posted by FMF
So Muslims should impose their beliefs on those of other faiths or else be accused of hypocrisy? Are you sure about this?

this is not what i am saying t all, I am saying that if you have a personal belief you should not provide an inducement to others in order for them to behave in a manner that is contrary to that personal belief, if you think its wrong to steal would you make safe cracking tools and provide them to others? Hardly!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Ok, but dont say i did not warn you.

and dont say i didnt warn you, one day you will be stood before god -

god 'robbie'
robbie 'yes, your wonderful majesty, oh please share your wisdom and love with me'
god ' why were you such a dick?'

Originally posted by stellspalfie
im sure they would rather not have any illness. but its hardly a reason to specifically select them out of the general populous because they have higher level of 'something they would rather not have' and parade h.i.v. around as some sort of weapon to imply that they all homosexuals are immoral. you dont not call all hetrosexuals immoral, you carefully ...[text shortened]... s....yet you never make that distinction for homosexuals. thus making you a big old homophobe.

Nope i think i have been rather restrained and somewhat balanced, but i cannot change your opinion nor prevent you from getting personal, so be it.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
and dont say i didnt warn you, one day you will be stood before god -

god 'robbie'
robbie 'yes, your wonderful majesty, oh please share your wisdom and love with me'
god ' why were you such a dick?'

ok, now you are blaspheming, I cannot hang out with you any longer, this is uncalled for dude, I am a Christian, please try to remember that.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
this is not what i am saying t all, I am saying that if you have a personal belief you should not provide an inducement to others in order for them to break that personal belief, if you think its wrong to steal would you make safe cracking tools and provide them to others? Hardly!

But the Muslim knows that the Christian [for example] does not share his specific belief about alcohol. I can understand a Muslim who tells fellow Muslims that its wrong to drink alcohol would be hypocritical if he then drank alcohol. But why should he superimpose his views on Muslims not being allowed to drink onto someone of a different religion? Surely you are not advocating this?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Nope i think i have been rather restrained and somewhat balanced, but i cannot change your opinion nor prevent you from getting personal, so be it.

you cant say 'nope' when it is exactly what you do. you say all homosexuality is bad, but only promiscuous hetrosexuals are bad. so shows that your problem with homosexuality is not based on promiscuous behavior otherwise you would specify that as you do with hetrosexuality. you may have convinced yourself otherwise, you may think that you are being balanced but that brings us back around to your ego problems.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
if you think its wrong to steal would you make safe cracking tools and provide them to others? Hardly!

Stealing is a crime. Safe cracking tools are for committing crimes. If it is not a crime to drink alcohol, and the Muslim does not drinking himself, why would it be hypocritical to serve a drink to a person who does not believe it is wrong?

Originally posted by FMF
But the Muslim knows that the Christian [for example] does not share his specific belief about alcohol. I can understand a Muslim who tells fellow Muslims that its wrong to drink alcohol would be hypocritical if he then drank alcohol. But why should he superimpose his views on Muslims not being allowed to drink onto someone of a different religion? Surely you are not advocating this?

i cannot explain it in any terms more clearer than i have already, i am tired and need to rest.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
ok, now you are blaspheming, I cannot hang out with you any longer, this is uncalled for dude, I am a Christian, please try to remember that.

i dont think you are a christian. i think you are masquerading as a christian.

Originally posted by FMF
Stealing is a crime. Safe cracking tools are for committing crimes. If it is not a crime to drink alcohol, and the Muslim does not drinking himself, why would it be hypocritical to serve a drink to a person who does not believe it is wrong?

it was only an example. Try to forget about Muslims, if it help you any more, think of stealing.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
i cannot explain it in any terms more clearer than i have already, i am tired and need to rest.

You have given me a glimpse of something I've long known was there in your worldview. It's clear enough, believe me.