NZ gay marriage act

Originally posted by stellspalfie
i dont think you are a christian. i think you are masquerading as a christian.

Thanks, i think you are masquerading as a dude.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Thanks, i think you are masquerading as a dude.

says the 'man' who says no to oral sex because its unclean? wtf??

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Thanks, i think you are masquerading as a dude.

was that your personal opinion or the bibles?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
was that your personal opinion or the bibles?

It had to be the bible because he doesn't do personal.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
its old Zhalanzi, we have moved on from those hazy old days of stoning homos and adulteresses 🙂

hmm, its odd that you can "move away" from something that is supposed to be infallible.

did god have a change of heart and he changed his mind in just 2000 years? the omnipotent, omniscient and eternal being that is god, had a change of heart just two thousand years later. and jesus came and dismissed most of those laws, but not some, because fuk the gays, right? you don't find it at all idiotic, huh?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
they reap HIV by engaging in illicit sex, I am,

I don't think HIV is so discriminating.
It does not have to be illicit sex.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
I don't think HIV is so discriminating.
It does not have to be illicit sex.

it depends of course with what one means by illicit, but certainly there have been many innocent victims. Women whose husbands engaged in extra marital sex with prostitutes carrying HIV and infected their wives, children born with HIV, victims of rape.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
it depends of course with what one means by illicit,

It depends on whether one wants to use a dictionary definition or make up
one's own definition.

illicit;
criminal, felonious, illegal, illegitimate, off limits, prohibited, unauthorized, unlawful, ...

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
it depends of course with what one means by illicit, but certainly there have been many innocent victims. Women whose husbands engaged in extra marital sex with prostitutes carrying HIV and infected their wives, children born with HIV, victims of rape.

if h.i.v. didnt exist would it alter any of your views regarding homosexuality?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
if h.i.v. didnt exist would it alter any of your views regarding homosexuality?

These are not my views, they are the Bibles point of view. The Bible states that homosexuality is illicit, the Bible states that homosexuality is unnatural, the Bible states that those who practice it will receive recompense for their error, please try to understand the difference.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
These are not my views, they are the Bibles point of view. The Bible states that homosexuality is illicit, the Bible states that homosexuality is unnatural, the Bible states that those who practice it will receive recompense for their error, please try to understand the difference.

oh, and you disagree with these views, right?

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
oh, and you disagree with these views, right?

Whether i agree or disagree is irrelevant and has no meaning to anyone but me.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
These are not my views, they are the Bibles point of view. The Bible states that homosexuality is illicit, the Bible states that homosexuality is unnatural, the Bible states that those who practice it will receive recompense for their error, please try to understand the difference.

whats the difference between me and you standing before god at judgement time? if you disagree with gods opinions you are exactly like me and will be sent into oblivion, unless you think god will spare you because you acted like you agreed with him? if you agree with god then saying 'these are not my views' would be a lie, you do not have to originated a view for them to be yours.

i.e. i think homophobia is wrong, i didnt originate this view, but it is my view because i agree with it.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
whats the difference between me and you standing before god at judgement time? if you disagree with gods opinions you are exactly like me and will be sent into oblivion, unless you think god will spare you because you acted like you agreed with him? if you agree with god then saying 'these are not my views' would be a lie, you do not have to originated ...[text shortened]... k homophobia is wrong, i didnt originate this view, but it is my view because i agree with it.

the difference is that I am prepared to subject myself to Gods view, you are not.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
the difference is that I am prepared to subject myself to Gods view, you are not.

do you think thats good enough? would god be happy to be surrounded by people who follow him but think he's wrong? doesnt that mean that he hasnt changed the heart of man, all he has managed to do is make them obedient?