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25 Jul 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerYes, there is none. The main reason for that is that a "designer" can't be measured and the designer hypothesis does not make any predictions, while common descent leads to a great number of predictions concerning empirical evidence, all of which match the evidence at hand.
[b]As it turns out, there is a lot of evidence in favour of common descent, and none in favour of "design."
None? Really? I know plenty of people that would disagree.
This is probably why the former is widely accepted in the scientific community, and the latter is not.
Argumentum ad populum.[/b]
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Originally posted by @kazetnagorraNonsense. If you stumble upon a spaceship, which explanation sounds the most reasonable? It was designed and requires a designer or it was assembled out of a junkyard by a random whirlwind that happened to pass by?
Yes, there is none. The main reason for that is that a "designer" can't be measured and the designer hypothesis does not make any predictions, while common descent leads to a great number of predictions concerning empirical evidence, all of which match the evidence at hand.
Some would argue that a single human cell is far more complex than a spaceship.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerIndeed, before we knew about evolution, people struggled to explain the diversity and complexity of life.
Nonsense. If you stumble upon a spaceship, which explanation sounds the most reasonable? It was designed and requires a designer or it was assembled out of a junkyard by a random whirlwind that happened to pass by?
Some would argue that a single human cell is far more complex than a spaceship.
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26 Aug 18
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraIt’s easy to connect dots when you know what you are looking for isn’t it?
Indeed, before we knew about evolution, people struggled to explain the diversity and complexity of life.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerYes, considering the evidence in favour of the theory of evolution is so overwhelmingly vast, it is quite easy to conclude is it a correct description.
It’s easy to connect dots when you know what you are looking for isn’t it?
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraEspecially if you you only accept arguments, assumptions, hypothesis, and anything else that favors the theory as truth and not ponder the possibility it could be wrong!
Yes, considering the evidence in favour of the theory of evolution is so overwhelmingly vast, it is quite easy to conclude is it a correct description.
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraA simpler code will have less features, including error checking. It will be less than, with respect to all enhancements it supposedly acquired over time, making it more susceptible to errors. It would also have less features in total so critical errors could do a great deal of damage earlier, and in greater frequency.
What would be different millions of years ago, in the context of evolution?
Originally posted by @kellyjayI only accept arguments based on empirical evidence. Fortunately, DNA, reproduction and mutations, the essential ingredients of evolution in the modern synthesis, have been observed.
Especially if you you only accept arguments, assumptions, hypothesis, and anything else that favors the theory as truth and not ponder the possibility it could be wrong!
Originally posted by @kellyjayWhat does "a simpler code" refer to? DNA was no different a million years ago.
A simpler code will have less features, including error checking. It will be less than, with respect to all enhancements it supposedly acquired over time, making it more susceptible to errors. It would also have less features in total so critical errors could do a great deal of damage earlier, and in greater frequency.
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27 Aug 18
Originally posted by @kazetnagorrahttps://evolutionnews.org/2006/01/intelligent_design_is_empirica/
I only accept arguments based on empirical evidence. Fortunately, DNA, reproduction and mutations, the essential ingredients of evolution in the modern synthesis, have been observed.
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraWhat DNA did you use to make that comparison?
What does "a simpler code" refer to? DNA was no different a million years ago.
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraFaith based claim!
What does "a simpler code" refer to? DNA was no different a million years ago.
27 Aug 18
Originally posted by @kellyjayDNA is a type of molecule, it only varies in length and the type of base pair (out of 4 possibilities) at each segment of the chain. If it was otherwise different it wouldn't be DNA.
What DNA did you use to make that comparison?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA
Originally posted by @kazetnagorraAnd yet random alterations could be thrown in without respect to outcomes and locations and improvements occur according to theory.
DNA is a type of molecule, it only varies in length and the type of base pair (out of 4 possibilities) at each segment of the chain. If it was otherwise different it wouldn't be DNA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA
Originally posted by @dj2becker"Natural selection can select for present but not for future function."
https://evolutionnews.org/2006/01/intelligent_design_is_empirica/
Evolutionists apparently want to have it both ways, or maybe they're just confused... because predetermination of a future function is in itself a function of intelligent guidance.
In order to select for a future function an organism would need to think ahead, and recognize the potential for that future function. Like it or not, Evolutionists have not been able to avoid mingling precepts of intelligent guidance in with their macro-evolution argument, even as they are (at the same time) dismissing ID as 'creationist poppycock'.
If no one recognized signs of intelligent design then disciplines such as archeology and forensic science would be relagated to mysticism. The precepts of ID are an integral part (not just ancillary) of science in general... and especially so in the two examples above.