anti-Christ

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Is God not allowed to send angels to people you disapprove of?

God can do whatever he wants to do.

But the issue here isn’t about God doing anything, it’s about you having previously nailed your underpants to Suzianne’s mast of lies and now having to double down on it.

@divegeester said
God can do whatever he wants to do.

But the issue here isn’t about God doing anything, it’s about you having previously nailed your underpants to Suzianne’s mast of lies and now having to double down on it.

My default setting is to accept personal info shared on these forums as honest. I've applied that to personal things you have shared here also. - I don't want to be one of those people who poke fun at a shared experience that might in fact be genuine. I don't consider that doubling down. I consider it good forum etiquette.

There are of course individuals who are not credible, especially those who reappear with multiple accounts. Suzianne (and yourself) are not one of those.

If you were to share yourself an angelical encounter you had experienced, my response would be the same as it was to Suzianne. Initially I would be curious for details and then most probably attempt to rationalise your account and look for alternative explanations. - As long as you were being serious in your recollection, I wouldn't accuse you of lying or of being delusional. (Based on our previous interactions and you being an established member of the site).

@ghost-of-a-duke said
My default setting is to accept personal info shared on these forums as honest.

To reflect what you said earlier:

Does this principle apply to everyone or just those you approve of?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
There are of course individuals who are not credible, especially those who reappear with multiple accounts. Suzianne (and yourself) are not one of those.

You don’t think Suzianne has at least one more account, and was using it to post and thumb in the 42 days after “Adieu” and when she mistakenly then posted as Suzianne, the account she was using in parallel in order to thumb posts.

How naive are you!

@ghost-of-a-duke said

If you were to share yourself an angelical encounter you had experienced, my response would be the same as it was to Suzianne. Initially I would be curious for details and then most probably attempt to rationalise your account and look for alternative explanations. - As long as you were being serious in your recollection, I wouldn't accuse you of lying or of being delusional. (Based on our previous interactions and you being an established member of the site).

Well that’s understandable because I have a track record of pragmatic honest posting, whereas Suzianne has a track record of hypocrisy, lying, sensationalism and forum delusions of the highest order.

Did you also believe her claim that I was paying Russ to have posters removed from the site?

@divegeester said
To reflect what you said earlier:

Does this principle apply to everyone or just those you approve of?

It applies to credible users of the site. (Invariably those who have been around a while, including those I don't particularly get along with).

@divegeester said
Well that’s understandable because I have a track record of pragmatic honest posting, whereas Suzianne has a track record of hypocrisy, lying, sensationalism and forum delusions of the highest order.

Did you also believe her claim that I was paying Russ to have posters removed from the site?

I would place Suzianne in the same bracket, as someone I trust through historic interactions.

And you have 'not' always posted with pragmatic honesty. (The whole 'killing off FMF' thing for example, which was initially presented in a credible manner). - And no, I do not think you paid Russ to have posters removed. Suzianne and myself don't agree on everything. But if she believed that, then well, that's what she believed.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I would place Suzianne in the same bracket, as someone I trust through historic interactions.

And you have 'not' always posted with pragmatic honesty. (The whole 'killing off FMF' thing for example, which was initially presented in a credible manner). - And no, Suzianne and myself don't agree on everything. But if she believed that, then well, that's what she believed.

I do not think [divegeester] paid Russ to have posters removed.

This is one of Suzianne's delusions, I'd say, no matter how "honest" she's being, or what role "high stress" may have played in her making the claim. The same goes for her often repeated claim that I have had "hundreds" of subscribers banned from the website "for disagreeing" with me because I am "a secret mod". These are delusions.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I would place Suzianne in the same bracket, as someone I trust through historic interactions.

And you have 'not' always posted with pragmatic honesty. (The whole 'killing off FMF' thing for example, which was initially presented in a credible manner). - And no, I do not think you paid Russ to have posters removed. Suzianne and myself don't agree on everything. But if she believed that, then well, that's what she believed.

But if she believed that, then well, that's what she believed.

Someone believing that something is "true" is part and parcel of their delusion and not evidence that it is not a delusion.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
My default setting is to accept personal info shared on these forums as honest. I've applied that to personal things you have shared here also. - I don't want to be one of those people who poke fun at a shared experience that might in fact be genuine. I don't consider that doubling down. I consider it good forum etiquette.

There are of course individuals who are n ...[text shortened]... ng delusional. (Based on our previous interactions and you being an established member of the site).

As long as you were being serious in your recollection, I wouldn't accuse you of lying or of being delusional.

Someone "being serious in [their] recollection" and not lying about it are fundamental aspects of a delusion and not things that suggest that it somehow isn't a delusion.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
As an aside, you recently made a big fuss when I used the word 'fairy-tales' to describe Kelly's biblical beliefs and yet, when it suits you, happily describe another person's experiences as delusional. I think you would be more credible as a poster if you exercised some consistency.

Yes. I believe that Suzianne has described some of her delusions on the forums on several occasions. A memorable one was allegedly bringing SO many people back from the dead with CPR on the pavements of Denver that she has no idea how many there have been. I think that is a delusion rooted firmly in narcissism and online disinhibition. As for KellyJay, and other people who believe in Christ, I don't think those beliefs make them delusional.

@fmf said

Someone believing that something is "true" is part and parcel of their delusion and not evidence that it is not a delusion.

Quite a weak proposition to be honest, as it goes both ways. People believing something (that you consider false) doesn't evidence they are delusional. - If it did, I would judge all theists as delusional. (Which I don't).

@fmf said
As long as you were being serious in your recollection, I wouldn't accuse you of lying or of being delusional.

Someone "being serious in [their] recollection" and not lying about it are fundamental aspects of a delusion and not things that suggest that it somehow isn't a delusion.

So you are saying Dive would be delusional if he seriously recounted a personal encounter with angels?!

@ghost-of-a-duke said
So you are saying Dive would be delusional if he seriously recounted a personal encounter with angels?!

Yes.

@fmf said
Yes. I believe that Suzianne has described some of her delusions on the forums on several occasions. A memorable one was allegedly bringing SO many people back from the dead with CPR on the pavements of Denver that she has no idea how many there have been. I think that is a delusion rooted firmly in narcissism and online disinhibition. As for KellyJay, and other people who believe in Christ, I don't think those beliefs make them delusional.

Can you link to her original post?

You are certainly referencing the account Dive has posted numerous times, but I strongly suspect that he has embellished the original account.