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@suzianne saidIn your head maybe.
I've never lied about myself in these forums. My accounts are what happened.
Your account of your leaving RHP, when you clearly didn’t, and what supposedly transpired with your alleged “house guest” as an excuse for your accidental posting under your Suzianne profile, has to be the most ridiculous pile of made up nonsense I’ve ever seen on these boards.
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@divegeester saidWe have already discussed this. I believe Suzianne gave an honest account of her recollections, about the angel encounter. Clearly, as a non believer in angels, I would offer an alternative explanation for what she experienced. (Coming as it did at a time of high stress) - This is no different from reasonable people I have met who claim to have had a divine encounter. I don't think these people were lying. I think they have simply misconstrued events or interpreted them through non-objective spectacles. - I do not consider them deluded.
I see, so Ghost of a Duke thinks you’re either lying about, it or you’re deluded. Pretty much same as me tbf.
The curious thing is why you, a Christian, find it so hard to believe in such things as angel visitations. (What with you religious book being built on such things).
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@ghost-of-a-duke saidSo she is honestly deluded ? 😆
We have already discussed this. I believe Suzianne gave an honest account of her recollections, about the angel encounter. Clearly, as a non believer in angels, I would offer an alternative explanation for what she experienced. (Coming as it did at a time of high stress) - This is no different from reasonable people I have met who claim to have had a divine encounter ...[text shortened]... ieve in such things as angel visitations. (What with you religious book being built on such things).
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@divegeester saidYou recently shared your narrowboating holiday in southern Wales. It would be very easy to take that account and give it a bit of a twist to make it sound fake or ridiculous. (I could perhaps add an encounter with an amorous sheep). If I then repeated my version of the account over and over again (while the original account disappeared into obscurity) I would be at liberty to whack you with it whenever I wanted, my version having replaced your own.
And it’s YOU who make your stories look ridiculous, because they are.
It is not ok to take personal info shared by others, and then exaggerate and mock those exaggerations for your own gratification. You seem to do that by default and it seriously degrades your value to the forum.
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@rajk999 saidKelly or Sonship are the ones who like to refer to atheists as deluded, for not believing in God or for believing we got here through evolution etc. - I don't call theists deluded for believing in God or angels etc. - I know delusion well, working in mental health, and theists don't fall into that category, even if they believe in things I'm certain do not exist.
So she is honestly deluded ? 😆
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@ghost-of-a-duke saidComing as it did at a time of high stress
We have already discussed this. I believe Suzianne gave an honest account of her recollections, about the angel encounter. Clearly, as a non believer in angels, I would offer an alternative explanation for what she experienced. (Coming as it did at a time of high stress) - This is no different from reasonable people I have met who claim to have had a divine encounter.
Are you suggesting that "high stress" cannot lead to delusions?
I believe Suzianne gave an honest account of her recollections, about the angel encounter.
Are you suggesting that, if the recollection of something is "honest", it follows that it cannot have been a delusion?
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI know delusion well, working in mental health
I know delusion well, working in mental health, and theists don't fall into that category, even if they believe in things I'm certain do not exist.
Based on your knowledge of mental health, do you believe that delusions can result from ~ for example ~ being force-injected with heroin every day over an extended period of time?
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@fmf saidYou have shared that, at one time, you were a theist. Were you delusional at that particular point in time, believing in things that you now know were false and outside of science?
I know delusion well, working in mental health
Based on your knowledge of mental health, do you believe that delusions can result from ~ for example ~ being force-injected with heroin every day over an extended period of time?
Personally, I don't think 'delusional' is a helpful term in any of the contexts being discussed here. Humans can have an altered state of mind for a variety of reasons, including such things as fear or stress. I could also understand, for example, how someone already predisposed to a belief in angels, could misconstrue a kind person appearing at a time of turmoil.
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@ghost-of-a-duke saidI see what you are doing here. The questions are point blank: Are you suggesting that "high stress" cannot lead to delusions? Are you suggesting that, if the recollection of something is "honest", it follows that it cannot have been a delusion? Can delusions result from taking drugs like heroin?
You have shared that, at one time, you were a theist. Were you delusional at that particular point in time, believing in things that you now know were false and outside of science?
Personally, I don't think 'delusional' is a helpful term in any of the contexts being discussed here. Humans can have an altered state of mind for a variety of reasons, including such t ...[text shortened]... y predisposed to a belief in angels, could misconstrue a kind person appearing at a time of turmoil.
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@ghost-of-a-duke saidSo delusions could result from "such things as fear or stress"? That is your view?
Humans can have an altered state of mind for a variety of reasons, including such things as fear or stress.
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@fmf saidYou are mistaken in your belief that you are the only one allowed to ask questions.
I see what you are doing here. The questions are point blank: Are you suggesting that "high stress" cannot lead to delusions? Are you suggesting that, if the recollection of something is "honest", it follows that it cannot have been a delusion? Can delusions result from taking drugs like heroin?
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@ghost-of-a-duke saidDodge mine if you want. As for me, I don't think anyone is deluded for believing in Jesus. However, I think delusions can be caused by things like high stress and narcotics. I don't think someone being honest about what they believe they saw under such circumstances means that they were not delusions.
You are mistaken in your belief that you are the only one allowed to ask questions.
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@ghost-of-a-duke saidIt is perhaps admirable that you seek to be helpful in this situation but it might mean that you are not motivated to be realistic.
Personally, I don't think 'delusional' is a helpful term in any of the contexts being discussed here.