19 Feb 16
Originally posted by FMFWhy doesn't it apply to every Christian who swaps quips with the non-Christian Wolfgang59 on the Debates Forum?
How do you think josephw's use of the Bible verse in question applied to divegeester. He won't say. Why doesn't it apply to every Christian who swaps quips with the non-Christian Wolfgang59 on the Debates Forum?
Clearly divesgeeester is special
Originally posted by SuzianneBut you yourself make plenty of personal attacks, blow things up into a big deal, and mix with non-Christians on the Debates Forum; why doesn't josephw brandish James 4:4 at you?
As I said, it's more what both of you two have been doing in the General Forum over the last few months. Persecuting people all because they disagree with you and aren't bashful about saying so. Your neuroses leave you no choice but to see this kind of disagreement as a personal attack. And that is why everything gets blown up into a huge deal with you two.
19 Feb 16
Originally posted by SuziannePersecuting!! Gotta love the sensationalist drama.
As I said, it's more what both of you two have been doing in the General Forum over the last few months. Persecuting people all because they disagree with you and aren't bashful about saying so. Your neuroses leave you no choice but to see this kind of disagreement as a personal attack. And that is why everything gets blown up into a huge deal with you two.
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19 Feb 16
Originally posted by FMFThe Bible is for everyone everywhere and at all times. Particularly appropriate when used in talking to divegeester since he makes so much of the fact that he's a Christian.
If you swap quips with Wolfgang59 on the General Forum, would josephw be justified in "warning" you with James 4:4? Do Bible citations such as this belong in General Forum banter? Is this how the Bible is supposed to be used?
One would have thought he would welcome it.
19 Feb 16
Originally posted by StartreaderI don't see how or when "he makes so much of the fact that he's a Christian" at all. Where did you get that idea? What I see, instead, is a lot of people he disagrees with - or who disapprove of him - trying to make something out of the fact that he's a Christian. You for example. You mention the fact that he is a Christian far more often than he does.
The Bible is for everyone everywhere and at all times. Particularly appropriate when used in talking to divegeester since he makes so much of the fact that he's a Christian.
19 Feb 16
Originally posted by FMFWell, I'm not neurotic, for one thing.
But you yourself make plenty of personal attacks, blow things up into a big deal, and mix with non-Christians on the Debates Forum; why doesn't josephw brandish James 4:4 at you?
And I don't blame people for disagreeing with me. And I can take blame when things ARE my fault. I don't turn mere disagreement with me into a reason to think people are vile or evil. I don't expect others to come to my defense and help attack someone merely for disagreeing with me. I don't see disagreeing with me as one of the greatest sins imaginable. I don't relentlessly turn an entire forum against someone just for disagreeing with me. Seeing a pattern here yet?
19 Feb 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI like the Authorized King James Version, I'm old fashioned in that way. The site I used has numerous translations. Besides, the meaning here isn't obscured by the slightly archaic language.
Sir I am not being pedantic but there have been numerous biblical translations since the middle ages that use modern English in a readily available format. Perhaps for the sake of clarity we could use one of those in future? You may like http://biblehub.com/ because it has many excellent features.
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19 Feb 16
Originally posted by FMFNot so.
I don't see how or when "he makes so much of the fact that he's a Christian" at all. Where did you get that idea? What I see, instead, is a lot of people he disagrees with - or who disapprove of him - trying to make something out of the fact that he's a Christian. You for example. You mention the fact that he is a Christian far more often than he does.
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19 Feb 16
Originally posted by DeepThoughtYes, King James is good. Little altered from Tyndale's translation some seventy years before, in beautiful language and has stood the test of time.
I like the Authorized King James Version, I'm old fashioned in that way. The site I used has numerous translations. Besides, the meaning here isn't obscured by the slightly archaic language.
Yet comparative translations are always good.
19 Feb 16
Originally posted by Startreaderdivegeester's opponents in debates and discussion are repeatedly saying things like 'so-called Christian' or 'he claims to be a Christian, but...' and so on. You do it too. It is people like you who "make so much of him being a Christian" and not him at all.
Not so.
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19 Feb 16
Originally posted by FMFLike the rest of the Bible, James 4:4 is. It simply is.
So James 4:4 is properly applied if the Christian it is aimed at is seen to be neurotic? Is that what you mean?
It's not "applied". The Christian is usually only too pleased to read a passage and consider it prayerfully.