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Originally posted by @fmfNo I am not.
You're trolling.
Are you flattering me?
One minute every post is worthless waffle to you.
And the next minute, Oh, I'm going "downhill" following another poster.
Are you turning now to flatter me for the moment?
I prefer the old grumpy chronic objector. I think it is more genuine.
02 Dec 17
Originally posted by @sonshipIf you missed the long discussions on morality between me (and others) and dj2becker, then you missed them.
No I am not.
Are you flattering me?
One minute every post is worthless waffle to you.
And the next minute, Oh, I'm going "downhill" following another poster.
Are you turning now to flatter me for the moment?
I prefer the old grumpy chronic objector. I think it is more genuine.
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Christian morals - There is something unique going on on this planet. There is the ability for one person to actually blend and mingle with many people. This is radical. This is unique. This is the New Testament salvation.
Christ can live in man in his deepest innermost spiritual being.
This is not sentimental. This is something God is able to do.
He has universalized a man - Jesus of Nazareth.
We do not know exactly how God can do this. God can distribute this Person into the spiritual being of millions of people down through the ages.
" For to me to live is Christ and to die is gain. "said one pioneer, Paul, in this experience.
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Originally posted by @fmfOkay. Correction:
Can you cite the post of mine where I said this? "Every post"? Don't be daft6. I've never said anything of the sort. You are profoundly dishonest sometimes sonship.
One minute you imply lots of post of mine are worthless waffle to you.
Seems when I shorten them up to poignant point or question, THEN its "trolling".
To the point of some LIGHT more than heat:
If we OUGHT to do something morally, whether we acknowledge it or not, is the obligation to something not living or something living - something with itself a moral nature or something material with no personality or moral nature ?
Why ought I do the right and good thing to do ?
Is it only just to myself ?
If so, I have a little secret to confess. I'm really easy on myself. I am much more strict on the OTHER person. So if it is only to myself that I am obligated, I'm afraid that some in-equality is afoot.
Why ought I behave ?
To whom am I ultimately accountable?
Am I ultimately held accountable to some paradigm of evolutionary process?
That is not a living moral agent. That's a theorized program, a non-living thing.
02 Dec 17
Originally posted by @sonshipThere's nothing here relevant to my question about "Christian morals".
Okay. Correction:
One minute you imply lots of post of mine are worthless waffle to you.
Seems when I shorten them up to poignant point or question, THEN its "trolling".
To the point of some LIGHT more than heat:
If we OUGHT to do something morally, whether we acknowledge it or not, is the obligation to something not living ...[text shortened]... ry process?
That is not a living moral agent. That's a theorized program, a non-living thing.
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Originally posted by @wolfgang59
What are they?
And how do they differ from atheist morals.
What are they?
And how do they differ from atheist morals.
You don't have to believe in God to do good things.
If there is no God, is there any basis to say "good" things can be done at all?
Can we be moral without believing in God? Yes.
Can we be moral without the existence of God? I don't see how wolfgang59.
Now this may be tangentially related to your OP.
I have been explaining that actually Christian behavior has to come from living Christ, which God has made possible - Christ living within and out from those who receive Him in His available form.
This verse means that Christ can blend with a person in a united and mingled way.
"He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit." (1 Cor. 6:17)
It means:
1.) The Lord Jesus is not dead but living.
2.) He is "joinable". One can become attached to the Lord Jesus and He attached to someone.
3.) Part of your being can BE Jesus Christ. And part of Jesus Christ can BE you.
Look, the opposite of "one spirit" would be "more than one spirit - separated, apart".
Once forgiven a man can unite with Jesus Christ - to be "one spirit" - mingled, blended, in union with the resurrected and living Jesus Christ.
Its radical.
03 Dec 17
Originally posted by @sonshipMore casual dishonesty. When you troll like dj2becker, then you are trolling. When you shorten up a point to make it poignant, if it's on topic, I engage you. Go back and read what I said about trolling.
Seems when I shorten them up to poignant point or question, THEN its "trolling".
So, if a Christian thinks that 'part of his being is Jesus Christ', then his ordinary human virtues and morals become "Christian morals", right?
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Originally posted by @fmfIf you claim that both matters have not been raised, you're ignorant of it or lying.
On which pages of this thread are you claiming this happened?
And now its your turn to go back and find those posts yourself.
And I was not restricting ("some of you" ) to just writers on this forum.
... internet skeptics of my faith more generally.
03 Dec 17
Originally posted by @sonshipWhy are you talking about who Cain married or whether Adam and Eve had belly buttons on a thread about "Christian morals"?
If you claim that both matters have not been raised, you're ignorant of it or lying.
And now its your turn to go back and find those posts yourself.
And I was not restricting ("some of you" ) to just writers on this forum.
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03 Dec 17
Originally posted by @fmf
Why are you talking about who Cain married or whether Adam and Eve had belly buttons on a thread about "Christian morals"?
If you claim that both matters have not been raised, you're ignorant of it or lying.
And now its your turn to go back and find those posts yourself.
And I was not restricting ("some of you" ) to just writers on this forum.
... internet skeptics of my faith more generally.
03 Dec 17
Originally posted by @sonshipYou suddenly mentioned the topic of who Cain married or whether Adam and Eve had belly buttons on this thread which is about "Christian morals" ~ nobody else. Is this just more evasion and deflection?If you claim that both matters have not been raised, you're ignorant of it or lying.
And now its your turn to go back and find those posts yourself.
And I was not restricting ("some of you" ) to just writers on this forum.
... internet skeptics of my faith more generally.