Originally posted by FreakyKBHWith all your insults and threats, it is surely you who has got himself into a "tittie twister", and not me.
Where you get yourself into the tittie twister you find yourself now, is when you go after the person with whom you are sparring in a manner which is the equivalent of insulting for the purpose of inciting.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHPresumably you think people should take seriously this weird attempted reference of yours to your own perceived "physicality" and your supposed willingness to resort to violence over slights - on an internet forum - that you can't even bring yourself to be specific about.
As I've already pointed out, it's so painfully obvious you lack anything resembling the physicality required to behave in such a brutish manner, no one here really takes you serious.
Meanwhile I have no qualms about the way I have talked to you ~ I have not called you silly names nor made any silly threats in the way you have. I think it is quite clearly you who is providing the model of an "internet tough guy" and not me.
26 May 16
Originally posted by FMFWhatever you say.
Presumably you think people should take seriously this weird attempted reference of yours to your own perceived "physicality" and your supposed willingness to resort to violence over slights - on an internet forum - that you can't even bring yourself to be specific about.
Meanwhile I have no qualms about the way I have talked to you ~ I have not called you s ...[text shortened]... think it is quite clearly you who is providing the model of an "internet tough guy" and not me.
You're the expert in these things so I will defer to your better judgement.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHSo will this be the end of your threats and daft bragging or is it all going to come up again the next time your feelings get hurt or someone says something you don't like in an online chat? 🙂
Whatever you say.
You're the expert in these things so I will defer to your better judgement.
Originally posted by josephwDeflecting criticism and disagreement by seeking to brand it as "insulting and denigrating" over and over again is one of the oldest and dreariest dodges that people on message boards come up with.
FMF: "Do you think you're being clever by insulting and denigrating others?"
Incredible hypocrisy on your part FMF. And you do it ever so cleverly!
26 May 16
Originally posted by FMFWell maybe you're right. Thing is I forget already what it was we were arguing about. I'm a rolling stone and gather no moss. 😉
Deflecting criticism and disagreement by seeking to brand it as "insulting and denigrating" over and over again is one of the oldest and dreariest dodges that people on message boards come up with.
26 May 16
Originally posted by josephwBe careful around sonhouse.
I like feeding trolls. Entertaining. Funny thing about trolls is they're never wrong. 😉
He's got a hair trigger and doesn't think twice to give a post his official thumbs down.
Sure, it's only one, but he pushes that mouse with such intensity and so much fervor, a thumbs down from him can feel like two.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHWow, such paranoia. I seldom do the thumbs up OR down so you must be seeing monsters in the dark alleys of your life. What is your handle in the Flat Earth society? I just joined as sonhouse so I can put up real arguments against people who have more on the ball than you.
Be careful around sonhouse.
He's got a hair trigger and doesn't think twice to give a post his official thumbs down.
Sure, it's only one, but he pushes that mouse with such intensity and so much fervor, a thumbs down from him can feel like two.
One thing not mentioned by anyone: The fact we can measure magnetic fields.
You may have heard of magnetic fields, right? Google them if you haven't.
So we know the magnetic lines of force condense together at the north pole and you get X amount of magnetic density there.
Thing is, something FE'rs haven't counted on, is the field lines converge also on the south pole, something not allowed in Flat land.
However, if the magnetic field of Earth is going to Antarctica in the flat earth, the strength of the field, pound for pound, the density of fields would be much less in the south than in the north.
As it turns out, the Antarctic magnetic field density measured by geologists and the like is very close to the density of the field in the north which proves they are converging on the south pole.
There IS a south pole, something not allowed in flatland.
So try flat earthing your way out of that one sparky.
BTW, this is a sonhouse argument, I didn't have to google anything, just know basic physics.
Why don't you consult your flat earth buddies and see what kind of rationale they have for that one?
Also, according to FE'ers the sun is somewhere above Earth say 1000 miles up.
#1, they have yet to come up with an explanation as to the physics of a sun smaller than Earth but yet able to produce prodigious amounts of energy for billions of years.
#2, since we also know the moon can eclipse the sun, that has to mean Flatlanders have to put the moon even closer to Earth than the sun which puts the moon below the Roche limit. I know you haven't heard of that one, google it.
Your flatlanders must have a rationale for that one too, right?
The thing is, the Flat Earth society people are well aware Earth is quite round and there IS an Antarctica which has been circumnavigated all the way around so the main deal with that organization is to be a social organization not really interested in actually proving Earth is flat. They want to attract weak minded people like yourself, easily led and thus have an audience for the sales of books, DVD's and the like which funds their Flatland picnics and keeps them in cold beer.
So back to the moon. It seems flatlanders have to make the assumption, totally unproven, that the speed of light is now some kind of variable so you have to dis relativity, Albert Einstein and all the physicists who came before and after him since only flatlanders 'Know' the truth.
They also have to dis the entire science of rocketry, they have to say rockets can't exist because you have already put up the argument 'how can rockets work since there is nothing to push against' which clearly did not come from your mind since that bogus argument was 19th century hokum since those people also did not know the first thing about physics which was figured out quite well several hundred years ago by that British genius Isaac Newton.
So you would have to dis the Chinese, who invented rockets some 800 years ago. Rockets can't work, can they?
Of course if you watch the launch of the space shuttle or the Saturn V, it is all just smoke and mirrors, nothing that big could ever actually fly, right?
So you have to dis the fact Americans actually landed on the moon in 69 to keep up the facade.
So you also have to dis all the other space faring nations, China, Russia, Britain, India, where at least Russia and China would have a propaganda ball exposing the fakery of Nasa.
The fact they didn't has to prove to diehard FE'ers the entire world of space faring nations are ALSO in on the big secret and somehow have convinced humanity in general there are no satellites, GPS has to be done from ground stations and all that rot.
So Yuri Gagarin was also in on the great lie, the Russians just made that up and that Sputnik deal, also smoke and mirrors in 1957.
So in order for you Flatlanders to get street cred you have to dis just about every science since Newton in order to rationalize your fantasies.
So tell me what physics is going on in that sun that must be only a hundred miles across and only a thousand miles away rotating around the flat Earth, to make up so much energy?
And why does the moon not just rip apart because it has to be a lot closer to Earth than even your sun. If the sun is up 1000 miles then Luna must be about 100 miles up and if so must only be a few miles across and that means we now have to also diss astronomy which can take really good pictures of the heavens so that means telescopes like the Hubble space telescope cannot possibly exist either since it most likely would crash right into the little 10 mile wide moon in about the same orbit.
The thing is, we are not in the tenth century when some world class assshole can just read some passage in the bible and take it so literally they construct an entire cosmology out of one or two passages in the bible.
Back then you could easily have converts to your cause since optics wasn't even around back in century 10.
But science has advanced to an incredible degree, microscopes able to see individual atoms, telescopes able to see 14 billion light years from Earth and all that technology would clearly show, for instance magnetometry would have clearly shown the magnetic field of Earth would have to be way different in the region of Antarctica than in the north pole so that alone would have pointed to your flat Earth.
None of that stuff happened. Telescopes exist, and for instance you tout being able to see over the horizon as proof of the flat Earth but we all know mirages exist, all you have to do is go to the desert on a hot day and see stuff maybe 40 or 50 miles away due to atmospheric refractions but the thing is, in order for that to be real proof of a flat Earth, it would have to be there all day every day everywhere on Earth but it isn't. It is in fact an intermittent phenomenon. Flatlanders never take THAT one in either do they?
You see one example of seeing a town 50 miles away and BOING, now that is PROOF of the flat Earth, in spite of the fact you can wait an hour and oops, the mirage is gone.
So you are not in the tenth century and flatlanders have to dis just about every science and every scientist on Earth, who clearly are all in on the vast international conspiracy to hide the truth of the flat Earth, right?
If the moon was 10 miles across and 100 miles up, I could see the mountains and such with a 7X50 binocular set. Oops, I can't. I guess my eyes must be too weak. And every other astronomer on the planet, they must be in on the big conspiracy also.
Wow, Flatlanders knowing this huge truth and are suppressed, I imagine the KGB must have assassinated a bunch of you guys in the Russian Flat land society, right? Since Russia and the Soviet Union were also in on the big secret the KGB must have had their hands in suppressing the flatland truth, right?
But all that I have just said will clearly just go over your head and you will just come back with another, YOU ARE WRONG AND WE ARE RIGHT since you personally do not have the intelligence or creativity to come up with arguments on your own, but rather will go back to bottom feeding on the flat land society for answers you cannot formulate. But there will be no such response because Flatlanders are coming from basically a religious POV and they don't have to provide proof, they just want you to just believe.
26 May 16
Originally posted by sonhouseI've looked at the website less than a handful of times.
Wow, such paranoia. I seldom do the thumbs up OR down so you must be seeing monsters in the dark alleys of your life. What is your handle in the Flat Earth society? I just joined as sonhouse so I can put up real arguments against people who have more on the ball than you.
One thing not mentioned by anyone: The fact we can measure magnetic fields.
You ...[text shortened]... rather will go back to bottom feeding on the flat land society for answers you cannot formulate.
It's not that it's completely without merit, but I haven't found it overly helpful at this point.
First reaction: it seems an awful lot like circle-jerking.
I've purposely kept my claims restricted in both number and complexity.
There are many proofs or supports to the flat earth model while the globe model presents many contradictions and errors.
Attempting to address all of them can only lead to more confusion without resolve.
For instance, among other issues thrown into the mix by you and a few other objecting posters in order to avoid the two questions is the Coriolis Effect.
Once the two posters realized how much the effect damaged the globe model, it was dropped like an autographed email from Hilary Clinton's personal server.
I think it is much better to answer the two questions first, if possible, before moving on.
26 May 16
Originally posted by sonhouseWhile I was responding, you edited your post with more rambling, but I'll hone in on one misstatement.
Wow, such paranoia. I seldom do the thumbs up OR down so you must be seeing monsters in the dark alleys of your life. What is your handle in the Flat Earth society? I just joined as sonhouse so I can put up real arguments against people who have more on the ball than you.
One thing not mentioned by anyone: The fact we can measure magnetic fields.
You ...[text shortened]... ically a religious POV and they don't have to provide proof, they just want you to just believe.
Your fail-safe counter for the visibility of distant objects is refraction of light.
I have no doubt you can Google it and bring yourself up to speed but for some reason you stopped your "research" with just enough to support your argument without recognizing the full ramifications of the phenomena... and how it really doesn't.
If you want to discuss the four types of superior mirages, I recommend you do more research on them.
Without question, once completed, that topic will become off limits, too.