Do away with Federal Minimum wage

Originally posted by KellyJay
Why not allow it, specific minimum wages, we are now are we not? Just
because people are setting theirs higher, why not allow it go lower too?
Kelly

Again, that's an argument against a minimum wage, not an argument against a federal minimum wage.

Why not allow every State to have its own standing army?

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Again, that's an argument against a minimum wage, not an argument against a federal minimum wage.

Why not allow every State to have its own standing army?

No it’s an argument against having someone who does not have my
state's best interest at heart setting my state's MW.

With all that is happening on the southern border, I think some states
need a standing army since this WH wants to punish the southern states
with Illegals coming in, without not only not lifting a finger to stop it, but
actually busing and flying them in too!
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
No it’s an argument against having someone who does not have my
state's best interest at heart setting my state's MW.

With all that is happening on the southern border, I think some states
need a standing army since this WH wants to punish the southern states
with Illegals coming in, without not only not lifting a finger to stop it, but
actually busing and flying them in too!
Kelly

Okay. Why is it not an argument against California legislators setting a Los Angeles minimum wage? Or a Los Angeles council setting the minimum wage for a Los Angeles business?

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Okay. Why is it not an argument against California legislators setting a Los Angeles minimum wage? Or a Los Angeles council setting the minimum wage for a Los Angeles business?

I'm not arguing against any state or city setting their own limits. I don't
have to agree with what they do, but I most certainly agree they are the
ones that should do it. They will feel the gains or pains before anyone else,
unlike Washington who could careless no matter how it turns out.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I'm not arguing against any state or city setting their own limits. I don't
have to agree with what they do, but I most certainly agree they are the
ones that should do it. They will feel the gains or pains before anyone else,
unlike Washington who could careless no matter how it turns out.
Kelly

I'm not arguing against any state or city setting their own limits.

Why not?

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
[b]I'm not arguing against any state or city setting their own limits.

Why not?[/b]

Because the poor decisions of a single State don't punish everyone in the entire nation. If the decision happens to work, it may serve as a model for other States to copy.

Originally posted by normbenign
Because the poor decisions of a single State don't punish everyone in the entire nation. If the decision happens to work, it may serve as a model for other States to copy.

And the poor decisions of a single county may not affect the whole State. What's your point?

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
And the poor decisions of a single county may not affect the whole State. What's your point?

Local control is better than national, save that those things considered "rights" be nationwide. It is much easier to undo local mistakes.

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
[b]I'm not arguing against any state or city setting their own limits.

Why not?[/b]

If you read the Op, it is do away Federal Minimum wage, not just get rid of
the minimum wage.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
If you read the Op, it is do away Federal Minimum wage, not just get rid of
the minimum wage.
Kelly

I am trying to ascertain why you hold this position, but you seem very reluctant to explain. You are against a federal minimum wage because you feel the States can handle the issue themselves. But why? And why the States, why not the counties, for instance? Or why not do away with the minimum wage altogether? What is so special about a State that makes it the optimal administrative level to handle the issue of a minimum wage?

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
I am trying to ascertain why you hold this position, but you seem very reluctant to explain. You are against a federal minimum wage because you feel the States can handle the issue themselves. But why? And why the States, why not the counties, for instance? Or why not do away with the minimum wage altogether? What is so special about a State that makes it the optimal administrative level to handle the issue of a minimum wage?

Not sure why you do not understand my position, I've told you over and
over. The closer to the problem we are the better we see it, and those
in Washington do not see as well as those living in the middle of that which
they touch. Those that write local laws live in the middle of what they do
touch with their laws.

You can have a bunch of people in the Northeast write laws that hammer
the Midwest, but if the Reps from other parts of the country vote for it too
then that is it.

Local people see it quite clearly since they also live live there too, they are
not blinded to the damage they do by being so far away. So let the laws for
the Midwest be written in the Midwest.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Not sure why you do not understand my position, I've told you over and
over. The closer to the problem we are the better we see it, and those
in Washington do not see as well as those living in the middle of that which
they touch. Those that write local laws live in the middle of what they do
touch with their laws.

You can have a bunch of people in t ...[text shortened]... they do by being so far away. So let the laws for
the Midwest be written in the Midwest.
Kelly

The State level is not as close as you can get. Why not counties?

Originally posted by normbenign
Local control is better than national, save that those things considered "rights" be nationwide. It is much easier to undo local mistakes.

Your argument, taken to its logical conclusion, permits only one kind of government: a national one to handle "rights," since the most "local" (i.e. the individual) solution is always to have no government involved in the first place. I guess you are just phrasing your opinion poorly and are not actually calling for the dissolution of the States in favour of the federal government.