Rajk999 - Jesus said we must believe

Originally posted by Rajk999
Mr Peace and Joy, you are another FOOLISH Christian who does not understand that God and Jesus Christ has no interest in what someone says.

Its all about what a person DOES.

DOERS ARE JUST, WHILE HEARERS AND TALKERS WITH BE DESTROYED.

We are to neither go to the right nor the left.

Originally posted by dj2becker
Would you also agree that those who do are the ones that believe?

Yes. Claiming to believe means nothing. One must DO it.

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Yes. Claiming to believe means nothing. One must DO it.

The sheep know their shepard's voice.

It is different things to different hearts. Most of the its around here are rooted in a gospel other than the one found in the Bible.

Originally posted by dj2becker
If you believe you have the conviction to obey. If someone told you a fire was approaching your village and you need to flee, would you obey him if you didn't believe him?

You did not answer the question. How does someone believe? Explain it like im a 3 yr old? What is it about. How do you do it?

Originally posted by Eladar
We are to neither go to the right nor the left.

As usual you lack the ability to explain yourself.

Originally posted by Rajk999
You did not answer the question. How does someone believe? Explain it like im a 3 yr old? What is it about. How do you do it?

You believe that Jesus died for your sins on the cross and that you receive forgiveness through His death on the cross. You trust Him that He will work in you to enable you to do His will and that he will change you to be more and more like Him. (Of course obedience goes hand in hand with faith, but trusting God enables us to be obedient)

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
Yes. Claiming to believe means nothing. One must DO it.

We cannot do it in our own strength.

Originally posted by dj2becker
You believe that Jesus died for your sins on the cross and that you receive forgiveness through His death on the cross. You trust Him that He will work in you to enable you to do His will and that he will change you to be more and more like Him. (Of course obedience goes hand in hand with faith, but trusting God enables us to be obedient)

One needs to compare one's actions and compare them to what is right according to the gospel found in the Bible. One can't simply trust one's own desires since our bodies are corrupt.

Originally posted by dj2becker
We cannot do it in our own strength.

That's an example of the type of mindless rhetoric that is often repeated.

Let's go back to the example I cited earlier:

There are two men. They both claim to believe in fidelity in marriage. One is true to his wife. The other is not. Which one truly believes in fidelity in marriage?

Would not the man who remains true to his wife, be doing it of his own strength?

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
That's an example of the type of mindless rhetoric that is often repeated.

Let's go back to the example I cited earlier:

There are two men. They both claim to believe in fidelity in marriage. One is true to his wife. The other is not. Which one truly believes in fidelity in marriage?

Would not the man who remains true to his wife, be doing it of his own strength?

It depends on who defines 'fidelity in marriage'. Jesus said if you look at a woman with lust you have committed adultery. So by that standard we are all adulterers. Or if you deny it a liar. That's why we need God's forgiveness and a change of heart.

Originally posted by dj2becker
It depends on who defines 'fidelity in marriage'. Jesus said if you look at a woman with lust you have committed adultery. So by that standard we are all adulterers. Or if you deny it a liar. That's why we need God's forgiveness and a change of heart.

So by that standard we are all adulterers. Or if you deny it a liar. That's why we need God's forgiveness and a change of heart.

More mindless rhetoric.

What's your point? That no man can remain faithful to his wife regardless of whether or not he is a Christian?

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
[b]So by that standard we are all adulterers. Or if you deny it a liar. That's why we need God's forgiveness and a change of heart.

More mindless rhetoric.

What's your point? That no man can remain faithful to his wife regardless of whether or not he is a Christian?[/b]

Point is all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, we all need forgiveness and we all need a change of heart. Through Christ alone we can have victory over not only the condemnation but also the power of sin. If every man is honest he will agree that he has sinned in some way or the other and therefore needs forgiveness and needs a redeemer. And that's why Jesus died, to set us free.

Originally posted by dj2becker
Point is all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, we all need forgiveness and we all need a change of heart. Through Christ alone we can have victory over not only the condemnation but also the power of sin. If every man is honest he will agree that he has sinned in some way or the other and therefore needs forgiveness and needs a redeemer. And that's why Jesus died, to set us free.

And yet more mindless rhetoric.

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
And yet more mindless rhetoric.

It's mindless rhetoric to the one that doesn't understand the gospel and rejects the Bible.

1 Cor 1:18

For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

Originally posted by Rajk999
As usual you lack the ability to explain yourself.

Not to the blind.