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27 Sep 14
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Originally posted by menace71The reason robbie carrobie and Galveston75 get into such tangles in this forum is primarily because their posting is driven by an assurance that they cannot be wrong as long as they stick to watchtower stated doctrine. This attitude is reflected in their posting style which brings them into conflict. (They of course call it "persecution" which helps them feel better about it).
LOL .....with time many of these "Awakes " can be found in pdf form and people can see the contradiction for themselves and know that one is not just making this up. To think how illogical and irrational this is it's like saying 2+2=4 then saying no 2+2=5 and this is absolutely true ......then a month later stating no actually 2+2=4 and the lame argument ...[text shortened]... change with time. 2+2=4 3000 years ago just as much as it does today and other truths
Manny
A simple example is where robbie carrobie states "we [the watchtower] are not infallible, but is unable to point to any topic where that fallibility is admitted to. It is not circular reasoning, it is denial, self delusion, false modesty and intellectual dishonesty.
Of course if the Watchtower suddenly held it's hands up and said "hey we got it wrong guys -sorry, yes we are fallible" all this debate would go away, but they can't do that because then the can or worms is truly open.
27 Sep 14
Originally posted by galveston75I think Satan probably gets some joy in watching humans suffer .....If one has the power to do good but does nothing that is of Satan
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102010145?q=obey&p=par
Who do you obey? It's either Jehovah God or satan. There is NO middle ground with this and no middle ground on blood and God's commands.
Manny
27 Sep 14
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I was reading some scientific stuff on eating or ingesting blood and it is technically toxic if consumed in large amounts as because of the high iron content ...however the distinction is made between placing blood where it should be in the veins and ingesting where it should not be ....animals that do eat raw meet with blood have intestinal tracks which allow for the extracting of the iron where as humans don't have that ability at that kinda of level.
Manny
27 Sep 14
Originally posted by menace71black pudding love it
I was reading some scientific stuff on eating or ingesting blood and it is technically toxic if consumed in large amounts as because of the high iron content ...however the distinction is made between placing blood where it should be in the veins and ingesting where it should not be
Manny
27 Sep 14
Originally posted by menace71But yet you said you would feed it to your child if they were starving?
I was reading some scientific stuff on eating or ingesting blood and it is technically toxic if consumed in large amounts as because of the high iron content ...however the distinction is made between placing blood where it should be in the veins and ingesting where it should not be
Manny
27 Sep 14
Originally posted by galveston75That's not what I said .....well ok technically I did say that as you posed a hypothetical question about a child was going to die within the hour if not given some blood to eat or drink ......So I said yes I would give that child the blood to eat if it was going to save their life .....however hypothetical and silly your question is as this will never happen and is not grounded in reality ....lastly a small amount of ingested blood will not kill you it's if it were consumed in large amounts ( which sounds disgusting )
But yet you said you would feed it to your child if they were starving?
Manny
27 Sep 14
Originally posted by galveston75There was no way God was going to allow Abraham to kill his son .....it was a point made by God that He would supply the Lamb !!!
So going back to Abraham. Most view him as a person to honor and faithfulness because of his faithfulness to his God Jehovah even to the point of obeying God to kill his son.
So he is honered for that but what if Jehovah had not stopped him? What would your view of Abraham be now?
Manny
27 Sep 14
Originally posted by menace71Maybe a silly and unreal question..but you did say what you said. How do you think God would view that? Did he give "any exceptions" for the use of blood? Would being in that situation not be a test on us all and does not God allow us to be tested as in our faith to him and his laws? Do you have your limits on being tested and does your faith have conditions attatched to it?
That's not what I said .....well ok technically I did say that as you posed a hypothetical question about a child was going to die within the hour if not given some blood to eat or drink ......So I said yes I would give that child the blood to eat if it was going to save their life .....however hypothetical and silly your question is as this will never happ ...[text shortened]... ill not kill you it's if it were consumed in large amounts ( which sounds disgusting )
Manny
No need to answer as only you know and when we are tested even in the worst situations, he is watching.
27 Sep 14
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Originally posted by galveston75You need to admit that the JWs and the Watchtower Society is a cult group and come out of it and get baptized in a real Christian Church.
Maybe a silly and unreal question..but you did say what you said. How do you think God would view that? Did he give "any exceptions" for the use of blood? Would being in that situation not be a test on us all and does not God allow us to be tested as in our faith to him and his laws? Do you have your limits on being tested and does your faith have condit ...[text shortened]... to answer as only you know and when we are tested even in the worst situations, he is watching.
27 Sep 14
Originally posted by galveston75The prohibition was on eating / drinking blood not on blood transfusions.....
Maybe a silly and unreal question..but you did say what you said. How do you think God would view that? Did he give "any exceptions" for the use of blood? Would being in that situation not be a test on us all and does not God allow us to be tested as in our faith to him and his laws? Do you have your limits on being tested and does your faith have condit ...[text shortened]... to answer as only you know and when we are tested even in the worst situations, he is watching.
Manny