Is Jesus too liberal for Republicans?

@vivify said
The wives submitting "in all subjection" comes from the NT. So does the bit about gays not inheriting kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9).

[quote]I say again, Christianity itself cannot be blamed for the evil of individual people who have used it as cover for their misdeeds. Christianity, at its heart, has given untold numbers of people purpose and hope, including me. It ...[text shortened]... ianity, like the Republican party, has changed and became the opposite of the morals they once held.

I still note this difference by talking about those who are "Christian". Those "followers" aren't Christians, they're "Christians". Republican "Christians". Evangelical "Christians". Justice Thomas is a "Christian". As you say, "ye shall know them by their fruits." But they cannot steal Christianity from Jesus by taking Jesus out of Christianity.

Speaking of knowing them by their fruits, ask a Christian what is the major responsibility of the church today. If they mention outreach to the poor, the abused, the homeless, that's Christian. If they mention some outrage like stamping out homosexuality or electing Republicans, that's "Christian".

This being said, Republicanism hasn't really changed, but it's definitely been damaged, almost beyond redemption. The same might be said about Christianity, unfortunately. It IS a reason why fewer and fewer people are staying in Christian churches. I've seen the congregation at my church lessen over the years and we now have the fewest amount of young people attending every Sunday I've seen in some time. And this has been true even though my church, the Episcopal Church of America, is perhaps one of the "more liberal" churches in the Anglican Communion.

@suzianne said
This being said, Republicanism hasn't really changed, but it's definitely been damaged, almost beyond redemption. The same might be said about Christianity, unfortunately. It IS a reason why fewer and fewer people are staying in Christian churches. I've seen the congregation at my church lessen over the years and we now have the fewest amount of young people attending every Sunday I've seen in some time.

Are you suggesting that attendance at relatively "liberal" churches like yours ~ where I assume there is more talk of "outreach to the poor, the abused, the homeless" ~ is falling because "Republican Christians" are talking about "stamping out homosexuality"?

@vivify said
If Christians were more like you and Suzianne the world would actually be a better place to live.

Lol, you’re joking, right?

Or are you just smoothing a couple of potential allies?

@vivify said
No matter how heated our debates get I am relieved that there are Christians who denounce members of their faith who think like him.

Relieved?
“Who think like them”

Your post doesn’t make sense.

@divegeester said
Relieved?
“Who think like them”

Your post doesn’t make sense.

He said "him".

Making sense is easier when you can read.

@suzianne said
Women were also condemned by Paul. Are women a sin?

St. Paul said women are bad?

St. Paul said that the Virgin Mary was born condemned as a woman?

Please, how can you blaspheme like this.

@suzianne said
He said "him".

Making sense is easier when you can read.

Yes he did, thanks.

Thanks also for the childish little barb; it added so much to your clarification and underlines (in a juxtaposed way) what vivify was saying you thinking like Jesus and the world will be a much better place with more like you.

🙂

@divegeester said
Yes he did, thanks.

Thanks also for the childish little barb; it added so much to your clarification and underlines (in a juxtaposed way) what vivify was saying you thinking like Jesus and the world will be a much better place with more like you.

🙂

If my posts are "childlike", yours are literally infantile.

Always crying when people disagree.

@philokalia said
St. Paul said women are bad?

St. Paul said that the Virgin Mary was born condemned as a woman?

Please, how can you blaspheme like this.

Wait. Saying that Paul said something he clearly meant, but didn't put into those exact words, blasphemy? Aren't you over-reacting just a little?

We have a poster to this very forum who believes as fact every single thing Paul said about women, and likes to spew them out whenever he can, and yet I blaspheme? Is that beam in men's eye THAT big?

@suzianne said
If my posts are "childlike", yours are literally infantile.

I didn’t say “your posts where childlike”

What was it you said earlier “Making sense is easier when you can read.”

😄

@divegeester said
I didn’t say “your posts where childlike”

What was it you said earlier “Making sense is easier when you can read.”

😄

In my book, 'childish' and 'child-like' are the same.

Explain the difference.

@suzianne said
In my book, 'childish' and 'child-like' are the same.

Explain the difference.

Childish usually means silly or immature and mostly points to unfavorable qualities. On the other hand, childlike means trusting or innocent and generally refers to the positive attributes of a child.

@suzianne said
However, all the nastyness of the OT is not Christianity.

What a strange and unbiblical thing to say.

"There are in all 283 direct quotations from the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) in the New Testament. In about 90 instances, the Septuagint is quoted literally."

You have also mischaracterized biblical Christianity in a number of other different statements you made in your post.

@vivify said
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https://newrepublic.com/post/174950/christianity-today-editor-evangelicals-call-jesus-liberal-weak

Christianity Today Editor: Evangelicals Call Jesus “Liberal” and “Weak”

A former evangelical leader is sounding the alarm about the direction his religion is headed in.

The editor in chief of Christianity Today is warning t ...[text shortened]... where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we’re in a crisis.”

It isn't that Jesus is too liberal for Republicans or too conservative for Democrats, it is that Jesus is the Lord is why everyone is upset with Him.

@rajk999 said
Name one false claim.

Everything you post is rife with heresy, baring the scriptures you quote, but even the Devil can quote scripture.

I've read everything you've said over the years, and none of it is worth replying to.

Your error has been explained to you.