Incomes relative to Religions in USA.

Originally posted by FMF
And this 'observation' only applies to Jehovah's Witnesses?

yawn, in the context of these findings and due to lack of evidence to the contrary, yes,
provide evidence and I will retract my statement.

Originally posted by FMF
Well it's Christ's teaching. Christ counsels it. Do the 9% of Jehovah's Witnesses who earn over $100,000 apply it? Can you demonstrate" that they do? No. Do the 8% of Black Christians who earn over $100,000 apply it? Can we demonstrate" that they do? No.

What proportion of the 9% of Jehovah's Witnesses who earn over $100,000 have a college degree do you think?

a college degree? jee i really don't know, wait till i boot up my mind-ray and ill extract the information.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
a college degree? jee i really don't know, wait till i boot up my mind-ray and ill extract the information.

A relative lack of tertiary education could be a reason for the relatively modest number of members of your denomination who earn those higher salaries.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yawn, in the context of these findings and due to lack of evidence to the contrary, yes,
provide evidence and I will retract my statement.

But surely your contention that "materialism is a state of mind, that is why it is not dependent upon wealth" is a an observation on "materialism" rather than on members of a particular group? Isn't "materialism is a state of mind, that is why it is not dependent upon wealth" about any "materialism" pretty much anywhere, affecting anyone, in any context?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
...can you demonstrate that other denominations are also actively counselled to lead a simple life, no, because you never once provide any evidence for your claims.

I lost count of how many times I was counselled to lead a simple life free from the pursuit of wealth for its own sake, in sermons and at retreats etc. when I was a Catholic. Indeed I am not materialistic to this day perhaps in part due to the virtues of that counsel, even if the fact that it was rooted in and supported by the teaching of Jesus is not my reason for adhering to it anymore.

Originally posted by FMF
A relative lack of tertiary education could be a reason for the relatively modest number of members of your denomination who earn those higher salaries.

more useless speculation, what about all the teachers, doctors, advocates
programmers and other professionals who deliberately choose to work part time, you
dont know anything and it really is tedious dealing with your ignorance to be honest.

Originally posted by FMF
But surely your contention that "materialism is a state of mind, that is why it is not dependent upon wealth" is a an observation on "materialism" rather than on members of a particular group? Isn't "materialism is a state of mind, that is why it is not dependent upon wealth" about any "materialism" pretty much anywhere, affecting anyone, in any context?

yawn, if you want to apply it further then go ahead, I only introduced it within the context of this discussion and as a basis for explaining the disparity that exists.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
more useless speculation, what about all the teachers, doctors, advocates
programmers and other professionals who deliberately choose to work part time, you
dont know anything and it really is tedious dealing with your ignorance to be honest.

The Jehovah's Witness organization counsels against people entering tertiary education. This presumably must have some effect on the number of those who do so.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yawn, in the context of these findings and due to lack of evidence to the contrary, yes,
provide evidence and I will retract my statement.

Book of Mormon - 2 Nephi 9:30

But wo unto the rich, who are rich as to the things of the world. For because they are rich they despise the poor, and they persecute the meek, and their hearts are upon their treasures; wherefore, their treasure is their god. And behold, their treasure shall perish with them also.

Originally posted by FMF
I lost count of how many times I was counselled to lead a simple life free from the pursuit of wealth for its own sake, in sermons and at retreats etc. when I was a Catholic. Indeed I am not materialistic to this day perhaps in part due to the virtues of that counsel, even if the fact that it was rooted in and supported by the teaching of Jesus is not my reason for adhering to it anymore.

again personal experience cannot be dis proven, but then again, it hardly constitutes
independent empirical evidence. Once again you have failed to account or even
attempt to account for the disparity other than to uselessly speculate.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Book of Mormon - 2 Nephi 9:30

But wo unto the rich, who are rich as to the things of the world. For because they are rich they despise the poor, and they persecute the meek, and their hearts are upon their treasures; wherefore, their treasure is their god. And behold, their treasure shall perish with them also.

Perhaps the Mormon bankers who built Las Vegas should have read this prior to it, pity
that. What one reads and what one actually puts into practice are two different things,
this is not an inducement to lead a simple life, its merely a condemnation of the rich.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yawn, if you want to apply it further then go ahead, I only introduced it within the context of this discussion and as a basis for explaining the disparity that exists.

But "the disparity that exists", as laid out in the stats in the OP is one of "wealth" and the proportion who earn over a certain amount, not "materialism". You yourself said, specifically, "materialism is not dependent upon wealth".

Originally posted by FMF
But "the disparity that exists", as laid out in the stats in the OP is one of "wealth" and the proportion who earn over a certain amount, not "materialism". You yourself said, specifically, "materialism is not dependent upon wealth".

what i stated was, now for the forth time was that it was a state of mind, and while it is
not dependent upon wealth it may or may not be an indication of materialism, now
stated for the second time, you tedious crashing bore. I refuse to believe that you are
so thoroughly deviod of reason so as to recognise this.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
again personal experience cannot be dis proven, but then again, it hardly constitutes
independent empirical evidence. Once again you have failed to account or even
attempt to account for the disparity other than to uselessly speculate.

Well my experience is certainly a clear indication that Catholics are counselled to lead a simple life free from the pursuit of wealth for its own sake, and that this is supported by the teaching of Jesus.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Once again you have failed to account or even attempt to account for the disparity other than to uselessly speculate.

I think the tertiary education factor is quite possibly a factor. You seem to be dismissing it by making personal remarks about me rather than dealing with it at face value.