Spirituality
04 May 12
Originally posted by RJHindsHum...Nice try on his part to try to convience that it was that simple but I'm afraid thats not even close.
That makes sense and is a good question that has been asked many times before. See if you like the following answer.
http://www.creationtips.com/adaminal.html
Genesis 2:19-20
New Living Translation (NLT)
19 So the Lord God formed from the ground all the wild animals and all the birds of the sky. He brought them to the man[a] to see what he would call them, and the man chose a name for each one. 20 He gave names to all the livestock, all the birds of the sky, and all the wild animals. But still there was no helper just right for him.
Lets look for real now at this scripture and what it is truley saying.
I see the words "ALL the wild animals" & "ALL the birds" in verse 19. Do you see that there?
Also there it clearly says "he chose a name for "EACH ONE". Do you see that?
Now look at verse 20 if you can. It even repeats those statements does it not?
So for the link you referred me to to say he could have done that in a 24 hour period is a joke, don't you agree?
So let me get this straight.... Adam named "ALL" the animals as the Bible says before he met Eve. He met his wife Eve after God put him in a deep sleep, formed Eve from his rib, Adam met her and explained a lot of things to her including not to eat or touch the tree, Eve went to the tree by herself and had a discussion with the serpent, went back to discuss it with Adam and then they both went back to that tree, ate, then went and made the loin covers out of the fig tree and hid, and then God came as he usually did in the "breezy part of the day" to speak with them, they had a discussion and then God lead them out of the garden.
Sooooo all this happened in just 24 hours? Oh yeah I guess they didn't sleep during this time? I think it would have been hard for Adam to name animals in the dark but who knows? Right?
So lets play like God created Adam at 12:01 AM. OK?
He then immediatly started to bring ALL the animals to him, which would have been in the dark early hours of the morning.
Then after naming ALL the animals, God said he saw that it was time for him to create a helper for Adam.
So he did that after he put Adam to sleep. So what time would it be now? Who knows?
Anyway now Adam had to meet his new helper Eve and had to get to know her and then explain many things to her. So what time would it be now? Not important I guess.
Now he had to show her the tree she was not to ever even touch........
Well are you getting the picture yet?
All in just 24 hours huh? Come on man...use your brain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by SwissGambitI honestly don't know but I think of my 4 year old and he figures stuff out so fast it's crazy. Like how to roll an object around or how to find something to climb up to get to something. I just think millions of years of evolution to get to the last 6-7k years then oh let's build a wheel and oh crap let's start planting crops and building cities if this be so then man is slow indeed LOL however why don't we see evolution in the apes ? Where is there advances ?
How long do you think it took from idea to implementation?
Manny
Originally posted by galveston75The reference pointed out to you the three categories that Adam named and they were livestock, birds, and wild animals. There is no mention of how many kinds of animals there were in the beginning. He named only those animals God brought to him so he did not have to spend time hunting for them. It is just like on Noah's ark. Could Noah have named every kind of animal he had on the ark in a few hours time?
Hum...Nice try on his part to try to convience that it was that simple but I'm afraid thats not even close.
Genesis 2:19-20
New Living Translation (NLT)
19 So the Lord God formed from the ground all the wild animals and all the birds of the sky. He brought them to the man[a] to see what he would call them, and the man chose a name for each one. 2 ...[text shortened]... yet?
All in just 24 hours huh? Come on man...use your brain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by menace71That was a question I had asked earlier but I just questioned that if they have been here as long or longer then humans, why are they still so far behind and with no advances as far back as they have been as they are now?
I honestly don't know but I think of my 4 year old and he figures stuff out so fast it's crazy. Like how to roll an object around or how to find something to climb up to get to something. I just think millions of years of evolution to get to the last 6-7k years then oh let's build a wheel and oh crap let's start planting crops and building cities if this b ...[text shortened]... LOL however why don't we see evolution in the apes ? Where is there advances ?
Manny
I got some really lame answer that made no sense.
Originally posted by RJHindsOk whatever but you know what the scriptures say that I just quoted to you. Does it not have the words ALL in it? I can't see the wording anywhere that says just a FEW, do you?
The reference pointed out to you the three categories that Adam named and they were livestock, birds, and wild animals. There is no mention of how many kinds of animals there were in the beginning. He named only those animals God brought to him so he did not have to spend time hunting for them. It is just like on Noah's ark. Could Noah have named every kind of animal he had on the ark in a few hours time?
Your problem is you are so stubborn and will never be proved wrong NO matter what the Bible says, right? But you'll sure believe this dude and his thoughts so easily.....So be it.
Again. All in just 24 hours huh? Come on man...use your brain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by RJHindsSo just a few "wild animals" would do it huh? Lol
The reference pointed out to you the three categories that Adam named and they were livestock, birds, and wild animals. There is no mention of how many kinds of animals there were in the beginning. He named only those animals God brought to him so he did not have to spend time hunting for them. It is just like on Noah's ark. Could Noah have named every kind of animal he had on the ark in a few hours time?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/aug/23/species-earth-estimate-scientists
Originally posted by galveston75Species are not kinds. God created kinds not species. So there couldn't have been that many kinds in the beginning. Adam was able to name all the kinds that existed then in just a few hours in my opinion. You can believe otherwise if you wish for I am tired of discussing this issue.
So just a few "wild animals" would do it huh? Lol
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/aug/23/species-earth-estimate-scientists
Originally posted by RJHindsYou really don't care and that's the problem. You know your'e wrong as is the fool who posted that sillyness on the web.
Species are not kinds. God created kinds not species. So there couldn't have been that many kinds in the beginning. Adam was able to name all the kinds that existed then in just a few hours in my opinion. You can believe otherwise if you wish for I am tired of discussing this issue.
But I guess that was probably the busiest 24 hours in human history, ya think? Geeeeez.
Originally posted by menace71But you will find that many things, he has to be taught. He will not figure out writing all by himself. He will not make a computer totally unaided.
I honestly don't know but I think of my 4 year old and he figures stuff out so fast it's crazy. Like how to roll an object around or how to find something to climb up to get to something.
I just think millions of years of evolution to get to the last 6-7k years
Evolution is not targeted at getting to our current state. Man became capable of what he is doing now about 100,000 years ago or less. Mans brain capacity evolved for other reasons than what he does with it now.
.... then oh let's build a wheel and oh crap let's start planting crops and building cities if this be so then man is slow indeed LOL
Go to any modern day society that has not taken on all the most modern technology and you will realise that man is slow. Without outside assistance the villagers in Zambia or the Native Americans of Brazil will continue to live the way the have for the last hundreds years will very little difference. Almost all advances they make and have made in the past have been a result of communication with other groups.
however why don't we see evolution in the apes ?
We do.
Where is there advances ?
Come on, I think this has been explained to you several times before. Evolution does not aim towards creating human beings. Am I wrong? Is this the first time you have heard this, or are you being deliberately dishonest? Or are you just slow?
Originally posted by menace71We've become so used to our current state of fast innovation that we tend to forget that things did not always go so quickly. After the wheel, it took us over 5000 years to build an airplane that worked. A mere 60 years later, we were launching ourselves into space. Things advance very slowly indeed, at first, but then the progress starts to come at a more and more rapid rate.
I honestly don't know but I think of my 4 year old and he figures stuff out so fast it's crazy. Like how to roll an object around or how to find something to climb up to get to something. I just think millions of years of evolution to get to the last 6-7k years then oh let's build a wheel and oh crap let's start planting crops and building cities if this b ...[text shortened]... LOL however why don't we see evolution in the apes ? Where is there advances ?
Manny
As for advances in apes, just look in the mirror. You and I are it, my friend. Biologically, we're part of the ape family. As for those 'other' apes, evolution guarantees them nothing. Most forms of life that have ever existed are now extinct.
Originally posted by twhiteheadDasa thinks we are all being deliberately dishonest.
But you will find that many things, he has to be taught. He will not figure out writing all by himself. He will not make a computer totally unaided.
[b]I just think millions of years of evolution to get to the last 6-7k years
Evolution is not targeted at getting to our current state. Man became capable of what he is doing now about 100,000 years a ...[text shortened]... irst time you have heard this, or are you being deliberately dishonest? Or are you just slow?[/b]
Originally posted by SwissGambitSome men have determined that we are in the ape family. Those that believe in the theory of evolution say apes are our ancestors. God contradicts this by saying He created man in the image of God. I tend to believe the creator rather than the creature. HalleluYah !!!
We've become so used to our current state of fast innovation that we tend to forget that things did not always go so quickly. After the wheel, it took us over 5000 years to build an airplane that worked. A mere 60 years later, we were launching ourselves into space. Things advance very slowly indeed, at first, but then the progress starts to come at a mo ...[text shortened]... volution guarantees them nothing. Most forms of life that have ever existed are now extinct.
Originally posted by RJHindsPS RJH. Also another slightly BIG thing that happened in your literal 24 hour period 6th day that happened before all the other events that you say happened during this time that involved Adam, was the fact that God also created all the domestic and wild animals of the earth.
Species are not kinds. God created kinds not species. So there couldn't have been that many kinds in the beginning. Adam was able to name all the kinds that existed then in just a few hours in my opinion. You can believe otherwise if you wish for I am tired of discussing this issue.
Soooooooo as I said, that sure was one busy 24 hour period wouldn't you say so? Lol.
Also isn't half of a 24 hour period that all this supposedly happened, dark? Just asking.
Originally posted by galveston75I understand your point. But all things are possible with God and it's in the Book. HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! 😏
PS RJH. Also another slightly BIG thing that happened in your literal 24 hour period 6th day that happened before all the other events that you say happened during this time that involved Adam, was the fact that God also created all the domestic and wild animals of the earth.
Soooooooo as I said, that sure was one busy 24 hour period wouldn't you say ...[text shortened]... l.
Also isn't half of a 24 hour period that all this supposedly happened, dark? Just asking.