23 Dec 13
Originally posted by wolfgang59Theres More ...
.. and debated over whether or not he took
after his dad's side of the family or his mum's!
But what they would have said when they left...?
"Did you see the sandals Mary was wearing with that gown?"
"That baby doesn't look anything like Joseph!"
"Virgin, my arse! I knew her in school!"
"Can you believe that they let all of those disgusting animals in the house?"
"I heard that Joseph isn't even working right now!"
"And that donkey that they are riding has seen better days too!"
"Want to bet on how....
Originally posted by HandyAndyThey were actually never there at his birth. They showed up some time later and in fact were comissioned by Herod to let him know where he was so that Herod could have him killed.....
...would have asked directions, arrived on time, helped deliver the baby, cleaned the stable,
made a casserole, brought practical gifts -- and there would be peace on Earth.
Originally posted by wolfgang59No. It's where we get the word magic from...
Does Magi mean men?
Who were the Magi who came to visit the infant Jesus?
According to the account of Jesus’ birth in the Gospel of Matthew, visitors from “eastern parts” who had seen the star of a new king presented gifts to young Jesus. The Greek text of the Gospel calls these visitors magoi, that is, “magi.” (Matthew 2:1, footnote) What do we know about them?
The earliest substantial source of information about the Magi is the Greek historian Herodotus. Living in the fifth century B.C.E., Herodotus recorded that the Magi belonged to a Persian priestly class who specialized in astrology, interpretation of dreams, and casting of spells. In Herodotus’ time, the religion of Persia was Zoroastrianism. Hence, the Magi he spoke about were likely Zoroastrian priests. “In a more general sense,” says The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, “a mágos in the Hellenistic world had supernatural knowledge and ability and was sometimes a practitioner of magic.”
A number of early “Christian” commentators, such as Justin Martyr, Origen, and Tertullian, described the Magi who visited Jesus as astrologers. For example, Tertullian wrote in his book On Idolatry: “We know the mutual alliance of magic and astrology. The interpreters of the stars, then, were the first . . . to present Him [Jesus] ‘gifts.’” In harmony with this understanding, many Bible translations render magoi “astrologers.”
Originally posted by Rajk999I did lol at this...
Theres More ...
But what they would have said when they left...?
"Did you see the sandals Mary was wearing with that gown?"
"That baby doesn't look anything like Joseph!"
"Virgin, my arse! I knew her in school!"
"Can you believe that they let all of those disgusting animals in the house?"
"I heard that Joseph isn't even working right now!"
"And that donkey that they are riding has seen better days too!"
"Want to bet on how....
Originally posted by HandyAndyNice.
...would have asked directions, arrived on time, helped deliver the baby, cleaned the stable,
made a casserole, brought practical gifts -- and there would be peace on Earth.
Welcome to the Spirituality Forum, Andy. (I know it may not be your first time in here, but if not, it has been a while since last time.)