Religion is flawed because man is flawed

@kellyjay said
I hope not! When it is time for the harvest, everyone will see; I hope neither we are for both our sakes. You are mind-reading again.

Just reading what you post kellyjay.

It is always revealing when one of you old wineskins gets bent out of shape and starts with the insults.

You do realise that all that nasty rhetoric who just fired at me over the last two pages is what you yourself look like on the inside don’t you?

Using the bible to insult another Christian whom you don’t even know, has to be the lowest form of lily-livered hypocrisy there is.

And YOU wrote it, not me!

@kellyjay said
You are a Christian, really; why is that? What makes you a Christian just because you believe? There are going to be those who tell Jesus they did things in His name and will be cast out because Jesus is going to claim He never knew them. The book of James says when we have faith, and there is nothing that shows it as a reality, it is a dead faith, your treatment of others t ...[text shortened]... even the Word of God shows what is in your heart, it comes out of your mouth we see it as you write.

Well, presumably this is the end of KellyJay bellyaching about people "making it personal" on this forum.

@kevin-eleven said
God is not separate. It is we who are separate.

"God" is the only one of His kind. Separate. Holy. A "noumenon" as it were. God is who he is.

Man is from below, and flawed in his perceptions.

@chessataxia said
Man makes mistakes.

He cannot be trusted to deliver a message from God.

Scripture is Wrong.

Flawed logic.

@chessataxia said
Ironically if I was delivering a pure message from God I doubt I would have needed that edit 🤔

God delivered a flawless message.

As flawed as you are, just deliver God's message.

But not if you don't believe it.

@divegeester said
Just reading what you post kellyjay.

It is always revealing when one of you old wineskins gets bent out of shape and starts with the insults.

You do realise that all that nasty rhetoric who just fired at me over the last two pages is what you yourself look like on the inside don’t you?

Using the bible to insult another Christian whom you don’t even know, has to be the lowest form of lily-livered hypocrisy there is.

And YOU wrote it, not me!

I tell you what; you keep telling me how your right and I'm wrong when it comes to
scripture, so prove it. I have to accept any correction from scripture when I'm shown
I'm wrong according to it. If you believe as you have just admitted about scripture,
you should be able to make a case according to scripture, not your opinion or mine.

Anyone can miss interpret scripture without exception, but using scripture as a
guide for correction, it should be clear that what we say is not according to
the scripture. We should be able to be corrected by it. Take your favorite topic, Hell,
show me where unrepentant sinners are going to avoid that place. Using scripture.

@fmf said
Well, presumably this is the end of KellyJay bellyaching about people "making it personal" on this forum.

If we have the means to measure scripture without opinions, comparing scripture to
scripture, that takes personality out of the equation. If all you have is personality, if
that is all you look at, how it makes you feel, what fits what you like, then it isn't the
scriptures we are looking at; it is nothing but personalities.

@kellyjay said
I tell you what; you keep telling me how your right and I'm wrong when it comes to
scripture, so prove it.

“Keep”, what are you on about? I’ve not done that at all.
I’ve just asked you lots of questions, most of which you deflect.

@kellyjay said
I have to accept any correction from scripture when I'm shown
I'm wrong according to it.

Problem is you cherry pick, like we all do.
You’ve got your mind set on your rote learned doctrines and you’re not budging.
It’s fine.

@kellyjay said
If you believe as you have just admitted about scripture,
you should be able to make a case according to scripture, not your opinion or mine.

Anyone can miss interpret scripture without exception, but using scripture as a
guide for correction, it should be clear that what we say is not according to
the scripture. We should be able to be corrected by it. Take your favorite topic, Hell,
show me where unrepentant sinners are going to avoid that place. Using scripture.

About what, what did you have in mind?

@kellyjay said
Take your favorite topic, Hell,
show me where unrepentant sinners are going to avoid that place. Using scripture.

Hell isn’t my favourite topic; demonstrating that it’s morally abhorrent, doesn’t fit in with the wider “context” (your favourite topic) of scripture, is logically incoherent and a blight on the gospel and the name of Jesus.

Feel free to start a new thread on it if you want to discuss it 🙂

@kellyjay said
Using scripture.

I don’t believe everything as FACT just because it’s written in the bible. Do you?

Oh I forgot, that is one of those questions which you’re too scared to answer 😃

Remember yesterday when you got all spiky as said to me “I’ve never claimed everything in the bible is fact” and then you ran away when I asked you that very question.

So, KellyJay, is everything in the bible a FACT?
Yes or no?

@kellyjay said
If we have the means to measure scripture without opinions, comparing scripture to
scripture, that takes personality out of the equation. If all you have is personality, if
that is all you look at, how it makes you feel, what fits what you like, then it isn't the
scriptures we are looking at; it is nothing but personalities.

All scripture is open to interpretation. Yours is partly wrong in my opinion.

@kellyjay said
If we have the means to measure scripture without opinions, comparing scripture to
scripture, that takes personality out of the equation. If all you have is personality, if
that is all you look at, how it makes you feel, what fits what you like, then it isn't the
scriptures we are looking at; it is nothing but personalities.

Be that as it may, KellyJay, but - like I said - presumably this is now the end of you bellyaching hypocritically - and disingenuously, I might add - about people "making it personal" on this forum.

@kellyjay said
I hope not! When it is time for the harvest, everyone will see; I hope neither we are for both our sakes. You are mind-reading again.

Where did I call you a tare?