13 Aug 20
@secondson saidSpeaking as an older brother, twisting a limb the wrong way works nicely.
Apparently you've never tried to get someone to obey you against their will.
13 Aug 20
@wolfgang59 saidObviously not.
Does a lie gain credibility if believed for millennia?
A repeated lie (over millennia) doesn't become credible, it becomes deeply entrenched.
@bigdoggproblem saidSpeaking as a younger brother, a solid kick in the shin is the best remedy to the arm twisting.
Speaking as an older brother, twisting a limb the wrong way works nicely.
@bigdoggproblem saidGood point!
Speaking as an older brother, twisting a limb the wrong way works nicely.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidThen there's the groin kick!
Speaking as a younger brother, a solid kick in the shin is the best remedy to the arm twisting.
@rajk999 saidNo matter how you say it you misunderstand and misrepresent what I believe.
Are you doubting now that you preach a doctrine of once saved always saved and nothing, no good works, no righteousness is required, and that all sin is forgiven?
The only stupid people are those like you who preach that garbage.
Only stupid people believe what you say.
@secondson saidHow do we differentiate between Fairy-tales?
The truth isn't stupid. Fairytales aren't stupid either. Just those that believe them.
14 Aug 20
@secondson saidWhich truth might that be in relation to Santa and the Easter bunny?
The truth isn't stupid.
@wolfgang59 saidYou asked “Does a lie gain credibility if believed for millennia?” I answered “yes obviously”.
Not obvious to me.
Care to explain?
The explanation that the lie (sic) has gained credibility with billions and billions and billions of people, is evidenced by the fact that billions and billions and billions of people believe it and find it credible.
So yes, it’s obvious that a lie can become more credible if believed over a long time.
14 Aug 20
@ghost-of-a-duke saidGood question. Do you know?
How do we differentiate between Fairy-tales?
I think it's a question of separating the facts from fiction, and the truth from the lie. It shouldn't be that difficult. It starts with being honest with oneself.
@divegeester said1984...
You asked “Does a lie gain credibility if believed for millennia?” I answered “yes obviously”.
The explanation that the lie (sic) has gained credibility with billions and billions and billions of people, is evidenced by the fact that billions and billions and billions of people believe it and find it credible.
So yes, it’s obvious that a lie can become more credible if believed over a long time.
15 Aug 20
@secondson saidPerhaps you didn't understand the question. This is the line of discussion and the question you avoid answering is: why is what you believe less stupid than what 999 believes?
All truth.
999: Your Christian church tell you that you and God are pals, therefore you can sin all you like and God will be merciful, because you are saved.
SS: You must be very stupid if you believe that's true. That is so idiotic I can't imagine there might be anything I could say to you that would make you realize you believe a lie.
K: What makes you think anything you believe is less stupid? Is it less stupid to believe in Santa Claus than it is to believe in the Easter Bunny?
SS: The truth isn't stupid. Fairytales aren't stupid either. Just those that believe them.
K: Which truth might that be in relation to Santa and the Easter bunny?
SS: All truth.