Originally posted by SwissGambithe was claiming earning money automatically makes one satan's pet toy. i was debunking that by telling him earning money (in an honest fashion, thought that was obvious) doesn't make one evil
And if your god-given gift is using your position as CEO to buy a bunch of stock options and then lay off a bunch of workers so that your stock goes up, that's just good old fashioned hard work. π
[And please note: the CEO hasn't done anything with the money yet.]
do you honestly believe i am claiming that bonking people over the head and mugging them or stealing old ladies pension funds is being a good christian?
Originally posted by ZahlanziMoney is printed in the depths of Hell. It corrupts absolutely. A monetary economy results in the systematic corruption of an entire populace. The Kingdom will practice a blend of a time bank means of exchange and a gift economy, although the exact proportions are impossible for me to predict.
he was claiming earning money automatically makes one satan's pet toy. i was debunking that by telling him earning money (in an honest fashion, thought that was obvious) doesn't make one evil
do you honestly believe i am claiming that bonking people over the head and mugging them or stealing old ladies pension funds is being a good christian?
Originally posted by ZahlanziNeed to be looking at net income for comparisons anyway, how much is left after tax theft, etc.
i was making a different point. congrats on missing it.
earning 100k a year and over means someone did some work. if someone does some work it doesn't mean he/she will earn 100k.
100K, after 40% tax = 60K (state & federal taxes combined in rate)
50K after 20% tax = 40K
30K after 0% tax = 30K
The resultant disparity is not really as great as the liberals would have you believe.
Originally posted by mikelomWhat about agnositics and atheists?
“Income levels of America’s major religious groups compared to the average U.S. income distribution.Over $100,000 per year:”
8% Black Christians
9% of Jehovah’s Witnesses
13% of Evangelicals
16% Mormons
16% Muslim
18% National Average
18% (Other)
19% Unaffiliated
19% Catholic
21% Christian (Mainline)
22% Buddhist
23% Christian (other)
28% the USA...... ahum?
46% of Jews
Btw being Jewish is not a religion.
Originally posted by CLL53Fixed!!
Need to be looking at net income for comparisons anyway, how much is left after tax theft, etc.
100K, after (40% tax - loophole after loophole) = 100K (state & federal taxes combined in rate)
50K after 30% tax = 35K
20K after 0% tax = 20K
The resultant disparity is really as great as the liberals would have you believe.
Originally posted by rwingettYou'll be coming over to our (the Christians) side soon. I'll save you a spot on the pew!
Keeping money, any amount of money, for your own exclusive use, to the exclusion of all others, is an abomination in the eyes of god*. This conception that your livelihood can be divided and separated out from the whole that sustains it is what causes one to be separated from the wholeness of humanity, and consequently from the wholeness of god*. Only by me ...[text shortened]... you have been judged guilty in the eyes of god.*
*Whatever your definition for that is.
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Originally posted by rwingettmoney is necessary for our economy and civilization to function. money isn't evil or good, it is a tool, just like a hoe is. what you do with it is evil or not
Money is printed in the depths of Hell. It corrupts absolutely. A monetary economy results in the systematic corruption of an entire populace. The Kingdom will practice a blend of a time bank means of exchange and a gift economy, although the exact proportions are impossible for me to predict.
edit: still hoping you're joking. bad joke anyway.
Originally posted by Suzianne(a) You altered my original post, obvious lack of any courtesy. Post what you like, but do not mislead others by alteration of the original material.
Fixed!!
(b) Not to belabor the utter stupidity revealed when someone supposedly somewhat intelligent thinks that anyone with an income of ~100K had any "loopholes" whatsoever. 100K is not rich, there are no loopholes at that income level, unless you count home mortgage interest deductions. There are areas in the country that for a family of five, both husband and wife work, three children, two cars to upkeep, house payment, etc., that 100K would just barely make ends meet. When you talk "rich" or "CEOs", etc., you better aim a bit higher than 100K.
Originally posted by ZahlanziSo how did you get from there to "bonking people over the head and mugging them or stealing old ladies pension funds is being a good christian"?
you claimed i was claiming that greedy ceo's making their fortunes by stealing from their employees' pension funds is hard work.
Oh, and I didn't say anything about pension funds.
You just kind of add whatever you want to people's posts in your mind, don't you?
Originally posted by SwissGambitwhat is the point of this discussion? i am confused.
So how did you get from there to "bonking people over the head and mugging them or stealing old ladies pension funds is being a good christian"?
Oh, and I didn't say anything about pension funds.
You just kind of add whatever you want to people's posts in your mind, don't you?
do you think i believe anyone who makes over 100k a year is a hard working christian regardless of how he earns that money?
if you do think that, you're wrong, i don't
if you don't think that, you're right, i don't.
either way, discussion over