Originally posted by @sonshipThis has got nothing to do with my question about "Christian morals". Nothing whatsoever, as you know full well.
The presence of thousands of communities as local churches on the four continents can be contrasted with your isolated, individualistic, philosophy.
www.localchurches.org
You'll find many testimonies of how Christ has effected the living of the participants in the church life.
As for deflection. I lost count of the number of questions put to you that you deflected from. Lost count ages ago.
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So Christian morals are Christ living in the innermost spirit.
This is sometimes a supernatural matter.
It is hard to cast your pearls before swine.
It is hard to give holy things to wolves who turn to attack.
If someone hates your family and asks you to tell you all about your father or mother or wife, you're not so eager to do so. You know that your precious loved ones will be exposed to their ridicule.
FMF is being eaten up by his dirtier swine nature as an unrepentant sinner.
FMF is being devoured by his dog or wolf nature as an unrepentant God ignoring sinner.
I am not so eager to "share" with him my experiences because Jesus warned us not to cast our pearls before the hogs. And He warned us not to give holy things, like God's truth, to dogs.
Getting to know God can start with dropping your hostility towards Him.
That is not an interest for some posters here.
They want more reasons to be hostile.
I am not obligated to help them to be more hostile.
Originally posted by @sonshipWho "hates your family" sonship? And what does this new thing have to do with my question about "Christian morals"?
If someone hates your family and asks you to tell you all about your father or mother or wife, you're not so eager to do so. You know that your precious loved ones will be exposed to their ridicule.
FMF is being eaten up by his dirtier swine nature as an unrepentant sinner.
FMF is being devoured by his dog or wolf nature as an unrepentant God ignoring sinner.
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Originally posted by @fmfI used the example of speaking about my earthly family to compare with telling you in your hostility and eagerness to malign my experiences of Christ living.
Who "hates your family" sonship? And what does this new thing have to do with my question about "Christian morals"?
No, I did not say "You hate my family".
I said your hostility towards all things Christ is not encouraging for any Christian to talk about Christ living through them.
This is like casting your precious experiences - "pearls" - before vicious pigs who like to wallow in the mud. it is to give precious things away cheaply.
You have an example of a Christian brother who suffered unfairly because he was learning from Christ to speak the simple truth and not try to vindicate himself when others rise to be his judge.
Did you read it?
Originally posted by @sonshipYou are likening me to dirty swine, dogs, wolves, vicious pigs?
I used the example of speaking about my earthly family to compare with telling you in your hostility and eagerness to malign my experiences of Christ living.
No, I did not say "You hate my family".
I said your hostility towards all things Christ is not encouraging for any Christian to talk about Christ living through them.
This is like casting your p ...[text shortened]... before vicious pigs who like to wallow in the mud. it is to give precious things away cheaply.
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I have shared testimonies on this forum many times.
I do so occasionally.
And yet I also consider some in the audience for whom this teaching seems quite appropriate.
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast. ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them. under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Matthew 7:6 -
This to me is not an ad hom. it is a teaching of love, believe it or not.
It is saying to me that some people are being EATEN UP from their own fallen nature. Don't allow them opportunity for the thing eating away at them to flare up and further damage them.
No doubt though along with being called a follower of Satan, this will used in the same manner - as proof of hate speech from the intolerant disciple of Christ.
Originally posted by @sonshipI don't want you to erect walls of text about "Christians talking about Christ living through them." I just want you to answer my questions about "Christian morals"; are they just regular morals demonstrated by people thinking 'Christian stuff'?
I said your hostility towards all things Christ is not encouraging for any Christian to talk about Christ living through them.
Originally posted by @sonshipThis is the second or third time you have used the term "hate speech", sonship. Who has accused you of "hate speech"? Are you accusing anyone in this community of "hate speech"?
No doubt though along with being called a follower of Satan, this will used in the same manner - as proof of hate speech from the intolerant disciple of Christ.
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Originally posted by @fmfI am likening anyone who behaves over many years in such a manner as appears related to this teaching of Jesus.
You are likening me to dirty swine, dogs, wolves, vicious pigs?
"Do not give that which is holy to the dogs, neither cast your pearls before the hogs, lest they TRAMPLE THEM with their feet, AND TURN AND TEAR YOU."
What have you usually demonstrated WHAT you wish to do with the Gospel explained? - TRAMPLE IT !
What have you usually done in reaction to me giving testimony of Christ in my own life?
TRAMPLE IT and then TURN and ATTACK the testifier.
Do you think that is unfair recollection of the vast majority of our exchanges over the last few years ?
The well is too poisoned FMF.
You poisoned it. You're here to poison it.
Okay, some posts I wish I had phrased somewhat differently.
I'll take responsibility for those posts.
Don't ask me which ones. Its a thing of the past.
You want to know about Christian virtues and how they are so different ?
You decide. Up to this very moment, I have some hope that you will not only believe God exists someday but not regard God as the enemy.
Love believes all things, endures all things, hopes all things.
Now if you turn and just trample and attack, you'll only be demonstrating my point.
Originally posted by @sonshipDo you think that is unfair recollection of the vast majority of our exchanges over the last few years ?
What have you usually done in reaction to me giving testimony of Christ in my own life?
You have posted approximately 25,000 times. The vast, vast majority of those posts I have not found interesting or I simply ignored them. Every month you write hundreds of posts that I just do not engage. But some of them I do address, It's a debate and discussion forum, sonship, and not a designated Christian one, so there's bound to be some debate and discussion. I would say that I tackle a small minority of your posts.
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Originally posted by @rbhillSo atheists are forever barred from these emotions and concepts?
Love, hope, faith, adaptability, appreciation, attentiveness, availability, caring, commitment compassion, concern, confidence, consideration, consistency, contentment, cooperation, courage, creativity, decisiveness, deference, dependability, determination, diligence, discernment, discretion, efficiency, equitable, fearlessness, flexibility, forgiveness, gen ...[text shortened]... ved or heard from me, or seen in me—put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you.
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Originally posted by @fmfInstead of me standing in for Dasa (I am not Hindu), how about you consider was it right for you a dozen or so times to characterize my posts as you have ?
Dasa used to compare me to animals and insects. Do you think he was right to do so?
You eloquently crafted pretty bad characterizations of my posts here.
Surely I don't have to go hunt down a dozen of these gems to remind you "sonship THIS is what I think of your writing about God and Christ."
Did you answer ONE of my posts asking you to explain why Jesus called his leading disciple, Peter, "Satan!" on one occasion ?
He said "Get behind Me Satan" when all Peter did was try to get Jesus to avoid the will of His Father and have some well deserved self-pity, saving Himself from the cross.
Interesting that Peter went on keeping on. He did not [edited] write epistle after epistle demanding that Jesus apologize of hold Him to His words - "Jesus, WHAT did you call ME ???"
If you have a case of cancer or some serious disease, you don't get mad at the honest diagnosis of a skilled physician. Oh, sorry, you're not offended but a bit amused.
Great.
Let's talk about the cure for us!