I have Chessmaster 9000 - do I need CM 11?

I have Chessmaster 9000 - do I need CM 11?

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So many people are raving about the Chessmaster Grandmaster edition, 11, and I wonder if there is that much difference in that and my CM 9000?

Please advise.

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I have CM9000 and the tutorials by Josh Waitzkin and the various other learning tools are great, but if you're looking for something with which to analyze or even just play against then why not go for an engine like Fritz/Rybka/Shredder or any number of free and very strong engines that can be found online?

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I downloaded Arena and put a Rybka engine in it and it is great. But to help me learn chess (as I still am a struggling player) I was wondering about the new Chessmaster. Is it really that much better than my CM 9000?

thanks.

grit

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Originally posted by grit
I downloaded Arena and put a Rybka engine in it and it is great. But to help me learn chess (as I still am a struggling player) I was wondering about the new Chessmaster. Is it really that much better than my CM 9000?

thanks.

grit
http://psp.ign.com/articles/855/855765p1.html

GRANNY.

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Originally posted by smw6869
http://psp.ign.com/articles/855/855765p1.html

GRANNY.
That is a PSP version, It looks and sounds shockingly bad but is absolutely nothing like the PC chessmaster 11 GM edition, they are totally different games.

CM11 is a looong way ahead of cm9000, it is flashier looking with lots of pretty whistles and bells, it is however much the same as far as opponents are concerned as CM9000, same kind of range with same kind of freeplay, rated and tournament game settings.

The biggest difference is the academy that comes with CM11 that can be extremelly helpful to beginners and even players like myself if they can be bothered to actually sit and study games, (I cant), it also has a very large database of games to study too.

So, if you want cm9000 with todays graphics and an acadamy and database of games thrown in then I would highly recommend it.

The only downside for me personally is that the opponents seem to throw away pieces randomly until you have what it desires to be a material advantage (or handicap) and then starts playing better until it has got its material back, then it will notice you struggling again and randomly give you another piece.
It may just be me that found that but opponents can sometimes be quite artificial, more so than lots of chess games out there,

As a reminder, the link provided is for a different game on a much more limited machine so I wouldnt use that as a basis for your decision.

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Originally posted by grit
So many people are raving about the Chessmaster Grandmaster edition, 11, and I wonder if there is that much difference in that and my CM 9000?

Please advise.

grit
There is an extra series of tutorials by Josh Waitzkin entitled "The Art of Learning." Plus, there's an "attacking chess" series by Larry Evans. The former is excellent, while the latter is so-so. The rest of the tutorials are the same. There are some extra cute features in GM edition, including some weird extra chess types games that are kind of fun, to a point.

Is it worth shelling out the extra money for GM edition? Well, it was for me, when it was $40. I don't know what it costs now, but it's your money; you need to decide how to spend it.

If it's between that and a RHP subscription though, I'd take the subscription. 🙂

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I have both 10th and 11th edition, to be honest, they are almost the same, except that the 11th have one more tutorial...

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Originally posted by grit
So many people are raving about the Chessmaster Grandmaster edition, 11, and I wonder if there is that much difference in that and my CM 9000?

Please advise.

grit
Yes. You MUST get the new "Chessmaster" if you want to become a better player. And when the next version arrives, rush out and buy that one. And the next one, and the next one. Because if once you stop buying new versions of "Chessmaster", you can never succeed at chess, or indeed, anything else in life.

P.S. Don't play ANY of them, or even take them out of their shiny boxes. Simply look and them and sigh, then scour the chess magazines looking for the next version.

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Mark, your post made my day!

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Originally posted by grit
So many people are raving about the Chessmaster Grandmaster edition, 11, and I wonder if there is that much difference in that and my CM 9000?

Please advise.

grit
The answer to your question depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Are you trying to become a stronger player? If so. your CM 9000 will suffice just fine, it has many imporntant lessons we would do well to review every 6 months or so. The many playing levels will challange everyone from beginner to master. If your trying to have the latest chess toy however, the price for this is not bad. It's NOT going to make you a stronger however. 😏

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Originally posted by EmLasker
I have both 10th and 11th edition, to be honest, they are almost the same, except that the 11th have one more tutorial...
That is very true, the difference between the two games is minimal but the difference between 9000 and 11 is greater, and I think it is worth getting cm11 for the prettier interface and better chess sets, it is only about 20 pounds now in the shops so if that is not too expensive for you then get it now!

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Originally posted by Pigface1
That is very true, the difference between the two games is minimal but the difference between 9000 and 11 is greater, and I think it is worth getting cm11 for the prettier interface and better chess sets, it is only about 20 pounds now in the shops so if that is not too expensive for you then get it now!
20 pound, aw, that's heavy

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So what are you suggesting?

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Originally posted by grit
So many people are raving about the Chessmaster Grandmaster edition, 11, and I wonder if there is that much difference in that and my CM 9000?

Please advise.

grit
I'm thinking about CM11. Do us a favor, run it on some games you play here and post the results. Let's see how good it is.

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Originally posted by EmLasker
20 pound, aw, that's heavy
£5:49 new on amazon:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B000VY15K4/ref=sr_1_olp_2?ie=UTF8&s=gateway&qid=1230279459&sr=8-2

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