Originally posted by Grampy BobbyOn some level, Grampy Bobby, with your campaign for supposed "civility" and "etiquette" - you must surely sometimes be horrified ~ or at the very least feel uncomfortable ~ due to some of the behaviour and posts by some of your most vocal defenders.
Thanks for your 2,003 Replies during the past 44 days for an average of 45.5 replies per day far exceeds the sole purpose of this thread which is now closed.
You post a lot of disapproving material about "trolls" ~ ad nauseam in 2015, although you managed to do so while hardly ever sharing an original thought of your own ~ so, by your own definitions, are any of your apologists "trolls"? Any thoughts?
Originally posted by FMFOriginally posted by FMF
There is no moving of goal posts.
If you think this is "moving goalposts" then you do not know what "moving goalposts" means. Or perhaps you just typed the very first thing that came into your head.
Can you cite any of my posts that demonstrate that I am a "women hater"?
Originally posted by robbie carrobie
An appeal to ignorance and logically fallacious,
An appeal to ignorance is an argument for or against a proposition on the basis of a lack of evidence against or for it. If there is positive evidence for the conclusion, then of course we have other reasons for accepting it, but a lack of evidence by itself is no evidence.
Your friend is on record as terming the ladies of RHP as 'bitches'.
Originally posted by FMF
My question is how can he justify claiming I am "obviously" a "women hater"?
I DO know what "moving the goalposts" means. You moved the goalposts when you changed your emphasis from asking in which posts demonstrate that you're a "woman hater", to how can he justify claiming that you are "obviously" a "woman hater". Again, you claim ignorance to promote your own "kool-aid".
So you can stop with the insinuations that I do not know what I'm talking about. Or do you treat all women this way?
No, don't answer that. I think we all know.
Originally posted by SuzianneNonsense. The two questions are about the same thing and mean the same thing. GHOST HUNTER can justify claiming I am "obviously a women hater" by showing me the posts he thinks can demonstrate it. But of course he can't, and neither can Startreader - that is why they are ignoring the request. "Moving the goalposts" means changing what it is I am asking him. And I have not.
I DO know what "moving the goalposts" means. You moved the goalposts when you changed your emphasis from asking in which posts demonstrate that you're a "woman hater", to how can he justify claiming that you are "obviously" a "woman hater".
Originally posted by SuzianneAs you well know, I treat people like you ~ who so often don't know what they are talking about or who blurt out stuff without giving it any thought ~ pretty much the same way, regardless of their gender.
So you can stop with the insinuations that I do not know what I'm talking about. Or do you treat all women this way?.
Originally posted by divegeesterYes, I do.
Have you any idea whatsoever, at all, of the issues being discussed in this thread!
And I will go on record here as saying they are "non-issues".
You know, I've tolerated your narcissism and FMF's narcissism for quite a long time now. You both let all manner of heinous things go on on this site, like the attempts by Robbie and others to tear down the clan system at RHP without even mentioning them. And yet, when someone has the "audacity" or the "unmitigated GALL" to actually call you two out for your narcissism (there can be no other word for it), OR if they actually have the heinous bad taste to actually DISAGREE with one of you, OR someone defies your near-constant condemnation for merely copy-pasting material (because honestly, that's where it started), you go berzerk. And I don't mean just a little pissy "oh, mommy, GB said I was being selfish!!" I mean a full-on, all-out WAR on GB for his courage to stand up to you two schoolyard bullies. You've literally pulled out ALL the stops to attack him (and surprise, make yourselves out to be "courageous vanguards of the TRUTH" at the same time), and to get others to pile on to your sad little bandwagon. Even to the point of now enlisting mods to do the dirty work for you that you can't do yourselves (even though you guys tried like hell to get FMF onto the mod team to further your aims).
It's all in this thread. But no one (and I do mean NO one) will actually put themselves through the hell of reading this entire thread again in order to come up to speed on your vicious attacks on a subscribing member of RHP. You've been able to tell your own fantasy tales of what GB has been "up to", with no censure or let-up, and precious little defense put up by him, for quite literally, years. You've managed to pile on and pile on, adding to what you call "evidence" of his supposed "misdeeds". You both ascribe all manner of evil thoughts and deeds to GB, with no one naysaying your ludicrous claims, and so you've gotten away with it all this time, until now, GB has plenty of weak-minded enemies (because they haven't made up their own minds, they simply drink your 'kool-aid' ) who pile on whenever you guys start your next round of attacks.
This is just more "forum combat" from two hardened veterans of the forum wars. Nevermind that the rest of the site has moved away from the "glory days" of the forum wars. I'd even say that you guys don't really believe your own crap, that you're just in it "for the lulz", but I think it goes even deeper than that, and now I go back full-circle to the beginning of this post. For years, I've seen you two forum maniacs attack ANYone who displays the balls to disagree with you. First, FMF encountered it in the Debate Forum, and now he dares not show his face in there because he's become the Debate Forum Pariah for his attempted attacks on people in there. Then you both show up in the Spirituality Forum, where I've gone more than a few rounds with you both, especially when you attack me for the high crime of disagreeing with you. You both got some traction in there mainly because the Spirituality Forum has a smaller number of people than the Debates Forum, as well as a number of people who naturally disagree with me for my beliefs to begin with. And now here you are in the General Forum, gathering your "evidence" bit by bit, day by day, trying to get something done to/about GB for his unmentionable crime of copy-paste and holding beliefs that you personally do not agree with.
I've kept my silence in this thread mainly because you are two and I am only one and you both seem to eat, breathe and live on this forum, so taking you both on in here is probably foolhardy, especially once you get your warband of "kool-aid" drinkers to jump in.
And believe it or not, the only purpose I have with this post is to speak my mind, and not to fight endlessly with you both over it, because we all know what a quagmire that would turn into, and quite frankly, I have other things to do. I just wanted to get all this off my chest, once and for all, and maybe, just maybe, wake up a few people in the process.
Originally posted by SuzianneHave you yourself ever attacked anyone on the Spirituality Forum for disagreeing with you?
Then you both show up in the Spirituality Forum, where I've gone more than a few rounds with you both, especially when you attack me for the high crime of disagreeing with you.
31 Jan 16
Originally posted by SuzianneWhich guys is it you think "tried like hell to get [me] onto the mod team" and when you say they "tried like hell", what is it you think they did exactly?
Even to the point of now enlisting mods to do the dirty work for you that you can't do yourselves (even though you guys tried like hell to get FMF onto the mod team to further your aims).
Originally posted by divegeesterProof if proof were needed that you are really not very bright at all.
How can I prove I'm here? How can I prove I've had no posts removed?
Well firstly, here I am...and secondly all of the posts I've made in this thread are still here. 🙂
You actually think that the fact that you're here means you haven't had posts removed?
By that token either I haven't had posts removed, because since I'm here I can't have, but that's not true. Therefore I can't be here, yet here I am.
Oops. Logical impasse. Logical fail. Robot overloads.
Divegeester exposed as the idiot we knew he was anyway.
Originally posted by SuzianneWhat definition of "pariah" are you using here? I think the views I propagated on the Debate Forum probably more or less reflected the views of about 50% of the regular posters there.
FMF encountered it in the Debate Forum, and now he dares not show his face in there because he's become the Debate Forum Pariah for his attempted attacks on people in there.
I don't think I was famous there for "attacking people" so much as dealing with sloppy thinking and people whose claims and beliefs didn't add up or didn't withstand scrutiny.
My intelligent, articulate posts which often gave people much food for thought ~ as landisqueen170 described them earlier on this thread ~ was rather irksome to some of the more scornful and inarticulate misanthropes who hung around on that forum, but that's par for the course. How this fits with your use of the word "pariah" is unclear.
Originally posted by SuzianneIt's very interesting, Suzianne, that Divegeester is saying exactly the same thing to you as he has been saying to me. Almost word for word. In fact, I think exactly word for word,
Yes, I do.
And I will go on record here as saying they are "non-issues".
You know, I've tolerated your narcissism and FMF's narcissism for quite a long time now. You both let all manner of heinous things go on on this site, like the attempts by Robbie and others to tear down the clan system at RHP without even mentioning them. And yet, when someone ...[text shortened]... this off my chest, once and for all, and maybe, just maybe, wake up a few people in the process.
You and I are very different people, but what we have in common is that we're women. Divegeester is exposed as the misogynist he is. He not only doesn't like women but he thinks he is better than those who are women.
Just one more demonstration that Divegeester really isn't very bright at all.
Originally posted by StartreaderWhat posts of mine have led you to agree with GHOST HUNTER's claim that I am "obviously" a misogynist?
You and I are very different people, but what we have in common is that we're women. Divegeester is exposed as the misogynist he is. He not only doesn't like women but he thinks he is better than those who are women.
Originally posted by FMFNot really. You actually treat anyone you disagree with or who confronts you as a potential participant in your courtroom drama game of leading question/cross examination.
As you well know, I treat people like you ~ who so often don't know what they are talking about or who blurt out stuff without giving it any thought ~ pretty much the same way, regardless of their gender.