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Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschex
Here is a good tip from me. Always do just less then your maximum effort - that way you wont cripple yourself every time you excersise and feel like you WANT to go back for more, rather then it being a chore.

Also, it means that if you get into a fight on the way home from the gym, you still have some powers left to beat them off - you would rea ...[text shortened]... energy doing one more lift then needed and then lose a fight as well - that would be a bad day.
Nah man, definitely try to kill yourself with each workout; until you can't lift your limbs. The results will keep you coming back way more than being lazy about it. Also, as for the gym versus home workouts, I can't see that it makes much a difference except that home is much more convenient. I would stay the heck away from machines though, and go for freeweights every time, because they help muscle stability and give a more overall workout. Save perhaps a few specific exercises, everything workout machines do can be done with dumbells.

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Originally posted by Ramned
Don't go to the gym unless you've got some good moderation skills. It's easier to go home and work.

There's so many little things you can do.

My morning routine

three sets of 30 - 35 pushups, or one set of 60.

lunges on the stairs, slowly.

chinups (using a tree in my yard, lol. - will get a bar in my basement soon i hope.)

Occasionally I do ...[text shortened]... th your dog, throw a football around...if you are active + pushups + eat well = good shape.
I'm too lazy to look, can you find the thread you had? The problem with working out at home is you need to get the equipment i.e. dumbbells, barbells etc

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Originally posted by zozozozo
id keep it natural
Agredd. They're a waste unless you're a serious power lifter. Just eat and drink more protein (milk) if you want to gain weight while exercising.

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I'd seriously recommend the Dummies Guide to Weight Training. There are good and bad Dummies guides, but this is one of the excellent ones. It's not about weight lifting, but weight training or more correctly - resistance training, which you can even do with rubber bands (large ones).

Just take it easy to start with, work within your limitations (listen to your body) and don't expect overnight results. I do 3-4 hours a week in the gym split about equally between aerobic training (walking, cycling, stepping) and weights.

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Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschex
Here is a good tip from me. Always do just less then your maximum effort - that way you wont cripple yourself every time you excersise and feel like you WANT to go back for more, rather then it being a chore.

Also, it means that if you get into a fight on the way home from the gym, you still have some powers left to beat them off - you would rea ...[text shortened]... energy doing one more lift then needed and then lose a fight as well - that would be a bad day.
good tip....! LOL.... that has to be the worst advice i've ever heard... so basically go to a gym but dont push it....

can i make a guess and say you've been going to the gym for 25 years and yet to devolop biceps?

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Originally posted by jonnifandango
Apologies - wrong quote edit

disagree. 3 days a week would do it using basic exercises - bench press/squats/deadlifting/curls for 8-12 reps * 3 sets for most body types.

Each set you should use as heavy weights as possible, once you have learnt correct techniques, which would take about 2-4 weeks.

Eat as much good quality food as you can - c ...[text shortened]...

In 3 Months if the gym is decent + decent instructors guarantee you'll put on some muscle.
Jonnifandango, Youre a gas man alltogether. Here I am sitting in work allnight flexing my huge biceps and tensing my enormous glutes against my very uncomfortable chair, and I say to myself, look at the chess forums and see whats going to keep me stimulated all night other than fantacizing about protein shakes and fast twitch muscles and then I see your post. You raise the bar, you raise me up so....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Gym is fine. I go to gym twice a week, to the pool once a week, and 4 times a week I play volleyball or basketball. I sometimes jog. I do all this since September (in the summer I was working and drinking beer) and I feel an enormous progress. Now I can do 15 pull-ups, do some 60 push-ups, run a mile in 5:50, swim a kilometer in 35 minutes and dunk the ball. The aerobic exercises are also a great asset to OTB. If you have more than one game during a day, then your heart plays an important role. The better your blood circulates, the less dizzy you feel in the second game. (However, in this case a beer also helps)

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Originally posted by duecer
If you are not genetically predisposed to building muscle, then going to the gym won't help much. If you just want to feel stronger, then regular exercises should do the trick, and you'll save loads on a gym.
if you got testosterone you will build muscle doing isometric, and isotonic exercises

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This appears to be a good program for beginners http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/

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